Title:Ethics Skits توسط فصل DE

این وب‌کست فقط برای مشاهده در دسترس است. برای اعتبارات AICP CM قابل استفاده نیست. ۰۳-۲۲-۲۰۱۳ بخش دلاور انجمن برنامه ریزی آمریکا با روشی منحصر به فرد به آموزش اخلاق برنامه ریزان خبره پرداخته است. اعضای فصل یک طرح، یک نمایشنامه کوتاه، در مورد یک موضوع اخلاقی که می تواند اجرا شود، اجرا می کنند. آن‌ها چندین سال است که طرح‌ها و بحث‌های بعدی را ارائه می‌کنند و همه آنها به عنوان استانداردهای CM اخلاق AICP پذیرفته شده‌اند. ارائه پیشنهادی برای کنسرسیوم شامل مقدمه و مروری بر اخلاقیات توسط گلن لارسون، نماینده منطقه دوم در کمیسیون AICP خواهد بود. فصل به معرفی و سپس اجرای یک طرح می پردازد. پس از آن، اعضای فصل آزاد خواهند بود تا به سؤالات پاسخ دهند یا در مورد مسائل برجسته سناریو بحث کنند. ما پیش‌بینی می‌کنیم که زمان کافی برای معرفی، اجرا و بحث در مورد یک طرح دوم متفاوت و پایان جلسه وجود داشته باشد. هر دو اسکریپت قبلا برای ارائه به اعضای دلاور (و مهمانان) پذیرفته شده بودند.

قسمتي از متن فيلم: Starting all attendees are in listen-only mode hello my name is Benjamin Lee and I just want to welcome everyone it is now 1 p.m. so we’ll begin our presentation shortly today on march 22nd we’ll have our presentation with ethics for help during today’s webcast please feel free to type your questions

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Available for 1.5 cm credit at this time I would like to send it over to the lower chapter and start with an audio recording of the first skit good afternoon good morning to those west of here welcome to this certification maintenance webinar for the continuing education of certified

Planners i’m peter von blon of the delaware chapter of the american planning association today we will address the ethical responsibilities of being a certified planner this webinar has the following format we will begin with an overview of the AICP code of ethics by Glenn Larson who is the AICP

Commissioner elected from region to then we will present to radio plays addressing various aspects of the code each play will be followed by a live panel discussion of the play in addition this will give you an opportunity to ask questions or to make comments we suggest

That you have a copy of the code of ethics handy for reference as you consider the issues raised in the skit the code is available at the APA website at planning org black / ethics please participate in the discussion asking questions or sharing your thoughts on the violations of the code of ethics

That we illustrate this session may be counted for one and one-half cm ethics credits please remember to visit planning o RG to update your credits after today’s presentation because of the nature of this webcast parts of it are pre-recorded if you have questions or observations type them into the

Question box the top of your screen and we will attempt to cover them when we go live now on with the show Glenn Larson has 23 years serving the Virginia chapter of APA and currently serves as the AICP commissioners for region 2 we have asked him to introduce the topic for us today

Welcome I’m Glenn Larson aicp Commissioner elected from region 2 i’d like to thank the APA delaware chapter for inviting me to give this brief introduction to the AICP code of ethics and professional conduct before Delaware chapter members embark on a few ethics skits for the remainder of this webinar

One caveat this is recording I’m away from my office this week so I’m coming to you through the miracle a pre-recorded PowerPoint I may not be live but I’ve been assured this is ethical for many of us this is the latest of many ethics sessions we viewed since the institution of the AICP

Certification maintenance program while you’re recovering familiar ground today it is important ground and warrants at least an annual refresher much of what I’m reviewing comes directly almost verbatim from APA’s toolkit for conducting ethics sessions it’s a good resource and I’ll list where to find it and other ethics related resources at

The end of my presentation as with many things these days this presentation comes with a standard disclaimer and I quote directly from the toolkits ethics session guidelines this session has been created for by general education regarding the AICP code of ethics though examples sample problems and question-and-answer sessions are an

Important part of illustrating application of the codes provisions all certified planners should be aware that only the ethics officer paul farmer is authorized to give formal advice on the propriety of a planners proposed conduct if you have a specific question regarding a situation right arising from your practice you are encouraged to seek

The opinion of the ethics officer most aicp code of ethics sessions start with inspirational quotes so i’ve also referenced some to set the tone having worked as a planner in charlottesville virginia i feel obligated to include at least one quote from Thomas Jefferson why talk about ethics most planners at

Some point in their career will either work in the public sector or into close contact with the public sector citizens have a right to expect that their planners will help elevate governance not fall to its more base level even when work may be entirely within the private sector planners have

Ethical responsibilities to their colleagues their clients and their communities aicp planners belong to the American Institute of Certified planners I must practice in accordance with standards of practice including the AICP code of ethics and professional conduct the current code became effective june two thousand five but is a successor

Code to those that have been in place for professional planners since nineteen fifty-nine planners have a long history and experience with respect to ethics planners are guided by both existing local and sometimes state ethics provisions but frequently none exist and planners must exercise common sense especially with consideration given to

The guidance of the aspirational principles in the code the rules of conduct from the code required the planners abide by those existing governmental provisions so it is vital for planners to understand them to avoid violating any of the rules including the rule of conduct 25 that was added in

۲۰۱۰ ethics scenarios are rarely cut and dry and often contain a high level of nuance ethics sessions such as this one help develop reasoning and reflection skills that can be applied in everyday situations as those two exclusively communicating a set of rules that must be memorized and adhered to as we all

Know there are two ethics codes associated with APA and it’s important to distinguish between them the other code APA’s ethical principles and planning is a guide to ethical conduct for all those who participate in the process of planning as advisers advocates and decision-makers please

Note that it is a guide and not a code by which individuals may be held accountable let’s get back the main topic at hand and briefly review the four sections of a icps code of ethics and professional conduct section a contains a statement of aspirational principles that constitute

The ideals to which we are committed we shall strive to act in accordance with our stated principles however an allegation that we fail to achieve our aspirational principles cannot be the subject of a misconduct charge or be cause for disciplinary action section b contains rules of conduct to which we

Are held accountable if we violate any of these rules we can be the object of a charge of misconduct and shall have the responsibility of responding to and cooperating with the investigation and enforcement procedures if we are found to be blameworthy by the AICP Ethics Committee we shall be subject to the

Imposition of sanctions that may include loss of our certification section C contains the procedural provisions of the code it one describes the way that one may obtain either a formal or informal advisory ruling and to details how a charge of misconduct can be filed and how charges are investigated

Prosecuted and adjudicated section D contains procedural provisions that govern situations in which a planner is convicted of a serious crime let’s quickly go over the important points in each section section a the principles to which we aspire focuses on three core values our overall responsibility to the public our responsibility to our clients

And our employers and our responsibilities to our profession and colleagues section b outlines our rules of conduct we adhere to the following rules of conduct and we understand that our Institute will enforce compliance with them if we fail to adhere to these rules we could receive sanctions the

Ultimate being the loss of our certification there are 26 rules of conduct but rather than go over each one I’ve summarized them with these major points i will read rule 25 though because it broadly covers any ethical loose ends quote we shall neither deliberately nor with reckless indifference commit any wrongful act

Whether or not specified in the rules of conduct that reflects adversely on our professional fitness bottom line always do the right thing and understand these rules moving on section C details code procedures including the way one may obtain either a formal or informal advisory ethics ruling keep in mind that

All communications regarding specific situations should occur either in a letter or phone conversation with the APA chief executive officer paul farmer in his capacity as ethics officer because of issues of reliability and confidentiality email communication is not to be used direct advice regarding a specific situation may only be given by

The ethics officer chapter presidents fellows of a ICP pdos and others are not authorized to give ethics advice here’s Paul farmers contact information once again contact should be made by regular mail or phone then their section D dealing with serious crime here’s hoping that none of us has to deal with this

Aspect of the code but it is important to have a working knowledge of this section note that certification and membership shall be suspended upon conviction of a serious crime and that aicp members are obligated to inform the ethics officer if they are convicted of a serious crime finally members should

Be aware of the reinstatement process finally check out the APA website for more information about these ethics resources a new resource the APA ethics case the year presents a series of ethical questions or dilemmas that relate to the code of ethics check it out concludes my introduction I’d like to

Once again thank the APA Delaware chapter for giving me this opportunity to review the AICP code of ethics and professional conduct ethical principles form the foundation for almost every decision we make is planning professionals it is therefore vitally important that we as aicp members not only notice code but apply it to best

Serve the public interest thank you we now visit the mythical town of Dell where Joe the sleazy developer has another scheme up his sleeve he has already gotten the city to donate its municipal golf course to him for a new development despite the best efforts of Debbie the then new town planner few

Years have passed and the general economy has taken the nose dive dale has not been immune to these problems Kenjo super green project saved the town in its darkest hour let’s see as we listen to the Delaware APA thespians in a super green project for the town of Dell

The town of Dell is facing a huge budget deficit and is on the fringe of being bankrupting Joe from Joe’s development LLC is proposing a cutting edge super green mixed-use infill development project that has great short and long term benefits for the town however the land that the project is being proposed

On has an historic structure that is known to be where del was founded this proposal has outraged the community Joe does not have time for a lengthy approval process he receives stimulus money to complete this project and he is on a tight timeline to get the project

Done or the money will be recaptured even though Dells historic farm is in jeopardy this project will bring much-needed revenue to the town amongst other long-term benefits Debbie the young planner has been promoted to be the town’s lead planner and has been assigned to present this proposal to the planning commissioners this month

However little does Deborah know that she will be put once again in an unethical situation where she needs to choose between right and wrong good game joke you too mr. mayor sometimes I wish we could still play golf in the old town course but that new development built on

The land a few years back sure is nice is that sure is and it generates a lot more taxes in that old municipal golf course and we need the money listen I know dell has really been affected by the economy sure has we really need to

Find a new revenue source before we go broke well listen i received a large amount of stimulus money to do a cutting-edge super green mixed-use development that i want to build in dell this develop with the economy provide free electricity for Town Hall create jobs and channel money into other

Services but I’m going to propose this on the Stanley farm mmm that farm is on the National Register of Historic Places has a lot of sentimental value to our town I mean the story that’s the house the town of Dell was founded in don’t worry I’ll keep the structure submit your proposal I’ll

Speak with Deborah our town planner to ensure the proposals expedited to be on the Planning Commission’s agenda you do realize Joe this will be a hard proposal to get approved I mean that farm is a lot of memories for this down I know I know but they’ll maybe no more with the

Deficit is experiencing listen mayor I need a decision for this proposal within 30 days or else off to take my proposal elsewhere no threats but i have a strict timeline to spend the stimulus money within just think what a benefit this project will be to the town the economy

The environment and of course to Joe’s development now I’ll see in fact I have a copy of the proposal right here that you can take to Deborah ok Joe I’ll see that gets on the agenda mayor storms into Debra’s office well good morning mr. mayor good morning Deborah I need to

Speak with you immediately I have a proposal that could save this town it has something to do with the green development and clean energy uses federal funding so time in its critical get with our preservation planner and begin working on this proposal tonight I want on the commissioners agenda for

This month’s meeting will do mr. mayor here you go it’s all in here hi Erin how are you the mayor just asked that we drop all of the projects and work on this proposal it uses stimulus money that has to be obligated within 30 days or else the developer will have to go

Elsewhere with the proposal they tell me it’s cutting-edge green mixed-use development that has many benefits both short and long term however the land it is being proposed on is the Stanley farm I thought the Stanley farm is the historic heart and soul of dough I need

You to do your due diligence and get this proposal ready for a presentation at this month’s commission hearing okay i will start right now but i’m not sure that all the documentation and studies can be done in time with all the requirements of section 106 and the required consultations with a State

Historic Preservation Office I will stay neutral and just stick to the regulations we I can’t let my own emotions get mixed up with work I do really love that farm though Deborah Ann our office working late on the proposal when the phone rings it’s Debra’s uncle who she has not

Spoken to in over 15 years oh hello tabby how are you hey but you don’t know who this is it’s your good old girl Stan hi uncle Stan gosh I didn’t think we’ve spoken for over 15 years I didn’t know you out of prison is everything all right well Debbie it’s

Deborah okay Deborah I heard you’re working as dead super green development project the developer and I have been talking he wants to build on my farm and promises huge profits for me if I selling the farm now I know I’m the back sheep of the family you always were nice

To me I have no kids you know Debra I’m leaving the farm view and my will the profits if I sell the farm to the developer how much profit are we talking about Oh two to three million really hmm well I did just take an eight percent

Pay cut uncle Stan we really shouldn’t be talking about this I have to consider my job first it’s been really good talking to you please try to stay out of trouble at the Town Planning Office Debra calls Erin for an emergency meeting erin i was up late last night

Working on the proposal it’s a great proposal and we just have to get this past but this proposal uses federal funding and there’s no way to comply with the federal section 106 and 30 days it can’t be done not important for the presentations of Commissioners just put those regulations the impending okay yes

Will do everyone will have a chance to speak but you must all the rules and be respectful thank you first the developer will give his presentation then the staff will give their presentation then we will take the commissioners comments before opening to the public hearing now Joe please give your presentation Thank You

Mr. chairman it’s so good to see you all again as you know I am jojo’s development LLC during these difficult economic times another town of Dell and our nation are a precarious economic predicament but now is not the time to sit back and hope for the best we must

Bully create new opportunities for economic development and job creation fortunately we can do this while protecting our heritage and saving the environment at the same time behold my proposal for the Stanley farm my project will provide office space attracting hundreds of jobs for the town there will be totally leed-certified will only use

Recycled materials and will generate its own electricity with solar cells and wind turbines in fact I will be donating for electricity to power town hall and I’m saving the historic structure where our talents first founded I think you’ll all agree that this is outstanding proposal but it is contingent on federal

Stimulus funds that I received provided that i can get those approvals within 30 days so i need you all to act boldly and to approve my project tonight if not for me for the future of Dell thank you Joe now our town planner will present the staff report good evening I am Deborah

The town planner for Dell staff has reviewed this project and we have found it to have multiple benefits for the town the project complies with our new Green Building Code and zoning ordinance and would be a model for the region we are recommending approval under our expedited procedures Thank You Deborah

And Joe any comments from the commissioners folks we need jobs and revenue to save this town I understand that some people may be set ml about the old Stanley form but at least with the proposal to Joe has presented he will be saving the house like what they did with

The winchester house in San Jose California this project reflects the new dell one that will provide green jobs and clean energy I for one am for it we must act on it tonight now just a minute I’m not ready to throw this town’s history way

For Joe look what he did to our golf course this whole thing sounds way too good to be true and why are we being forced to act so quickly if you’ll just let me interject the time frames are stipulated by the federal government to get their funding hey don’t blame me i

Voted for the other guy that’s not a good enough reason for me hey isn’t it required that we follow the federal historic regulations I didn’t see any mention of that in the staff report um yes well those regulations are discussed on page 43 of the Appendix what page 43

Of the Appendix well I can ask Aaron or historic planner to give you a summary if you would like she can give you her rationale for putting those requirements in the appendix I am Aaron dolls historic preservation planner hi folks this is the end of the skit so what am I

Going to do Oh even though Deborah has earned her a ICP since the fiasco with the golf course she doesn’t seem to have remembered much from the her previous run-in with Joe young aaron has been put in a tough position as a result what violations of the code of ethics has Deborah committed

Although she is not bound by the code as Aaron committed any violations what should Aaron say in front of the potentially hostile planning commission we now turn to our live panel to hear their thoughts and yours as well on the play we have just heard again please use

The question window at the top of the webcast screen to communicate with the panel our panel consists of four members and a moderator Connie Holland aicp is a director of the Delaware office of state planning coordination under the leadership of governor jack markell Connie’s office serves as staff to the

Governor’s office and acts as a liaison between state and local governments she is the former director of the Kent County Planning Office and was responsible for planning inspections and GIS tonita giacomo has worked as an urban planner or a financial planner since 1972 and has served as an officer

In the Delaware chapters of the American Institute of planners now the APA and the American Society for public administration having previously worked in the Wilmington Delaware planning department and the Wilmington area planning council called will mapco he is currently the principal planner of Cecil County Maryland Tony also is an adjunct

Professor at wilmington university and teaches in the government and public policy program ido donnell aicp is a policy scientist and instructor in the institute for public administration at the university of delaware he has over 48 years of professional planning experience in municipal County and regional planning during the last decade

He has worked on various transportation and infrastructure project as well as local comprehensive plans and municipal official education program Jeff rig nur a is CP and PE is vice president of Whitman record and associates and manager of the firm’s Wilmington Delaware office he has more than 20 years of experience in

Transportation planning and design working primarily with public sector clients Pat Meili aicp is the senior planner for the wilmington delaware department of planning and urban design she has over 25 years planning experience in both public and private sectors her specialties include urban design preservation housing planning law ethics environmental studies and public

Health she has written hundreds of national registered nominations and architectural analyses and has contributed photos for multiple publications with the most recent being the cover art for leaders of wilmington principal officers of the city of wilmington delaware 1832 to 2007 and now here is Pat Meili okay I’d like

This is pat malli I’d like to welcome everyone in a listening audience to something that the group that you’re about to hear discuss has had quite a bit of fun putting together which hopefully dis minish it dismisses the thought that if one is ethical one has

To be rather stuffy about it if you would hurt us in the hour preceding this broadcast you would certainly have that notion dispelled what I have done in the preparation for this session is to ask two of the folks on the panel to take the lead one per skit and be prepared to

Discuss and point out some of the foibles that they’ve found in the overall skit I do want to take a just a moment to thank Dave agile and Vicki powers who originally captured the ideas that the planning committee had in putting these two skits together and putting some of their own wicked sense

Of humor right in there with it it always makes life and interesting interesting here in Delaware okay what I’d like to do at this point is ask IDO Donnell to take the lead on this first discussion and summarize how many ways the participants utterly trampled on our

Aspirational and our code of ethics Wow where to begin let’s deal with the aspirational aspects first if you have a copy of the code in front of you which would suggested earlier in the program I think you have to take a look at section a under aspirational principles we shall

Always be conscious of the rights of others well they’re certainly not being conscious of the rights of others in dealing with our own employees that matter d we shall provide timely adequate clear and accurate information on the planning issues to be to the affected person sensitive governmental decision makers well obviously if it

Requires more than 30 days to get the story preservation investigation done we’re not going to have adequate clear or accurate information we shall promote excellence d excuse me G which promote excellence of designing endeavor to conserve and preserve the integrity of and a heritage of natural and build environment what we’re doing short

Shrift on the historic preservation analysis were not exactly doing justice to that historic element and the heritage and H we shall deal shall deal fairly with all participants in the planning process those of us who are public officials or employees shall also d be leavin town hall planning process

Participants again we’re not dealing even hand over here as you go further into this especially on some of Deborah’s comments to our uncle and possible inheritance and things like that let’s talk a little bit about the responsibility to our clients and employers in that section again under

The section a the aspirations we shall exercise independent professional judgment on behalf of our clients and employers well no we’re not exercising independent judgment here or rushing to judgment without olean at all analysis being done let’s take a look at also see in there we shall avoid the conflict of

Interest or even the appearance of a conflict of interest and accepting assignments from the clients or employers while I should probably should have reduced herself immediately as soon as your uncle called the damage was done once you had the conversation that point she was out it she should have been out

Of the equation let’s go on to our responsibilities to our profession and colleagues we shall protect and enhance the integrity of our profession that does neither of that it doesn’t enhance or protect the profession from that standpoint so those are just some of the some of the more obvious things that we

We picked out of the aspirational let’s go to our rules of conduct under be this one well okay I’ll just read off the numbers then we’ll go back and try and paraphrase some of these once it we’re more obvious ones that we can identify 1256

۱۰ ۱۴ ۱۶ ۱۹ ۲۲ and last but not least 25 okay let’s go through these a little bit and see where we stand we should not deliberately or recklessly or with reckless indifference fail to provide adequate time lean clear accurate information on planning issues again they truncate at the time for the

Historic preservation analysis you cannot do due diligence in that short period of time it’s also probably requirement under the federal law for more more time to respect their for your violating that we shall not accept an assignment from a client or employer when the service is to be formed involve

Conduct that we know to be illegal or violation of these rules if it requires more than 30 days these store interview why would you accept it you must point that out where you must need to fight that battle right out of their five Michelle not as public officials or

Employees except from anyone other than our public employer any compensation Commission rebate or other advantage that may be received or relate to our public office or employment might be a little bit more fuzzy well uncle Stan got involved here and I think he really you know basically corrupted that whole

Process right then and there six we should not perform for many work on a project for a client or employer if in addition to upon a Greek compensation from our kleiner employer there’s a possibility for direct personal or financial gain I won’t i won’t read the

Rest of it right there on the stands who basically hurt to forward I wish I number ten shall not deliver leave nor with breakfast and difference miss surfers at the qualifications views and findings of other professionals she’s kind of indicated that the historic preservation analysis is complete

However she’s hit it on page 46 of the Appendix so it’s not complete so she’s merely misrepresentative view of her own story preservation planner number 14 we should not use the power of any off as a secret to obtain Oh badge it’s not a matter of public knowledge nor in the public interest

Having the family farm sulfur for a possible inherence up to three million dollars that’s public interest violation hey I’m going to stop you for just doing it if you could make sure your lavalier mics a little closer some of the comments that are coming in that your

Sound is fading in and out we’ll see you soon as someone types of comment okay pray continue all right we should not accept work for a fee or proponent we know we can not perform as required by the prospective client in this case the public is targeted client as well and

You can’t do it in 30 days the law requires beyond 30 days we should not be able to disclose the interest of our client or employer when participating in the planning process nor shall we participate in an effort to conceal the true interest of our client or employer

Again I think the involvement with the family farm is kind of cloud this whole issue illness number 22 is a little bit different we shall not retaliate or quadrant allegation retaliation against the person who has filed a charge or ethical misconduct or another planner is conducting or is cooperating with the

Officer we’re not there yet but certainly the language and kind of the body language in kind of the tone and everything to the source historic preservation planner kind of is intimidating and if I can break in for just a moment we just had a question from Leonora asking was the uncle the

Owner of the farm and yes the quick answer is yes yes and 25 we shall not deliberately ignore with reckless indifference commit any lon voi whether or not specific specifications business I think it looks quite a few of these items would hit that bill right there

You know much of a stretch with that I’d like to ask you the other panel members if they have any comments or like that add to this let’s start at the left and Jeff you look sort of eager so why don’t you take point thanks Pat one of the

Things that really is interesting is the dynamic between Deborah and Erin about the project one of the key elements of the the code of ethics that’s really kind of spoken to me is to be in the aspirational principles that we shall accept the decision of our client or employer concerning the objectives and

Nature of the professional services we perform unless the course of action is illegal or plainly inconsistent with our primary obligation to the public interest I think that’s one of the many subtleties in this in this case study in that the course of action of providing the section 106 compliance in the

Appendix is not necessarily illegal or inconsistent but the direction to provide that may have been in terms of the in terms of the relationship with uncle Stan if they were to have not put that information in the reporter deliberately misrepresented that the property is not historic for example

That would be a little bit more cut-and-dry but it’s a fairly subtle circumstance and I think you’re spot on if we don’t know what the normal planning report from Dell looks like if they always stuff such things in the pendek section you know they could argue that was their methodology if however

Everything would have had mentioned in an executive summary or opening text then you know it screams that you know this is obfuscation to a fine level right Tony how about comment from you excuse me thank you i think that and really answered the question as to what the ethical

Violations were on the part of deborah the part of this that it really intrigues me is what we would do in counseling Erin and her actions and I was gratified when she said that I will stay neutral and just stick to the regulations because I can’t let my own

Emotions get mixed up with work and although she is not a member of a ICP I think it’s incumbent upon us to if we were counseling her to counsel her in accordance with these rules of conduct particularly rule number 25 just a quick observation would be the perhaps we

Could say that erin was more adhering to our code of ethics than Debbie was yes Debbie heard uncle stan’s and I just three million and she was already envisioning a brand new Camaro and where she was moving to and that’s the that’s one of the ironies in s that the AICP

Member is not adhering to the code and the non aicp member appears to be inclined to do that I think it goes back to something that Glenn said his opening remarks about rarely as a situation cut-and-dried all right um and and to have a code of ethics be like as every

Woman in the viewing audience will know the from familiar thing with the pantyhose of one-size-fits-all it’s another fantasy Connie you’re sitting there smiling let’s have some comments from you I audience ladies and gentlemen’s County Holland pleasure to be with you today because of my current

Job I think what I honed in on or what really jumped out of me was making sure that the public really had input into this and that the proper information was getting to the council to make a decision and I think there were several violations which I think ed did a good

Job speaking about but our principles to which we aspire they’re real overall responsibility to the public I mean we shall promote excellent of design and endeavours to conserve and preserve the integrity and heritage of the natural built environment and did you see what was up on the screen it was horrendous

This beautiful historic structure and all of a sudden the cyclan it was like this Harley couldn’t believe it and I I would hope that the public would would never never let this go through i know it wouldn’t happen in delaware we shall stab pay special attention to the

Interrelatedness of the decisions and i think talking about all the the people that should have been the information that should have been an aspheric or simply wasn’t there and that decisions may come from on high maybe even if the federal government where this couldn’t happen and as we all know in this room

Today I think maybe in the olden days as we call it in planning profession we have had to fast track things and I found in my line of work and in my 40 years a service of fast track never never works just causes all kinds of

Problems ja rule of conduct we shall not deliberately or with recklessness this indifference failed to provide adequate timely clear and accurate information come on ladies and gentlemen this was just being stuffed down somebody’s throat and so it was a great skit kudos to everybody that wrote it it’s real

Life but and I think I did a good job of saying what the what the problems were in this issue is correct I think they need to sit down and maybe have that the planners and the people on that staff look at what the rules of conduct work

Because there was an aicp regulations we have to hear but as we but I think you’ll hear today several times most local jurisdictions also have rules of conduct and I think just about all of them were violated in this gift thank you well there you have it folks on

Break from the State Planning directors of wisdom let me go back through and I’m going to as Peter just scroll through some of the comments that were received as the skit went on and throughout the discussion let’s take a little bit of time here one of the

Questions that came up was were there any other planners in the office and the skit is silent on that I think we were left to believe that may have been a two-man shop in which case it’s an even more unholy atmosphere a panel you want to comment on that yeah this is an

O’Donnell hear the question comes up there’s a parallel question should Deborah reduce yourself immediately I don’t know whether she has any staff that she could you know basically assigned to besides Aaron I don’t know a lot of errands in a position to really carry forth posle to the to the council

If you will so that’s an unknown you miss points to it certainly from Aaron’s perspective or from Debra’s perspective if I were Debra and I received a phone call like that the next phone call would be to the Ethics Commission stating that that phone call in made I here by

Removing myself from this case you know because that’s it’s the damage is done soon as that phone calls conversations taking place as far as I’m sorry and and it’s very true but one thing we reflected way back when we wrote this originally was you can make that phone

Call to to paul farmer in chicago but twelve farmers you know not going to be the one who’s signing your paycheck and a lot of times there really are the critical issues where if you’re following your your higher nature your gut your spirit well where you want to

Phrase it or you know certainly just bottom line being the code of ethics you may be putting your means of employment on the line is their case for a lawsuit you know I’m not a lawyer don’t even play one on TV but you know a lot of people don’t have the financial

Wherewithal to go down that path so it becomes a lot of soul searching Jeff you Hydra and I in so many of these circumstances is a third as I mentioned before a lot of subtlety if the code really does speak directly to this issue though point six is we shall not perform

Work on a project if there’s a possibility for direct personal or financial gain to us right so that very clearly speaks to Deborah should have said right there up will stand you know you just uh soured the pot and going to a layer and said

Sup lady to make do this yeah and that would have been the highest and best road I believe let me share with you one other comment that’s come in here on the web and it reads land use decisions are to suppose to be made as part of the

Public record in Florida the mayor’s communication to the planner might be illegal good comment again I’m not an attorney I can’t make that announcement but it’s a very good observation can you scroll back no more pewter and see someone has asked oops came back how would you coach the non-professional

Planner to not quote stick to the rules but move towards filing a charge of misconduct under c5 folks I throw that back to you maybe that’s something we need to forward to our noble leader because that is a higher level a question hey I’d like to just add this

Is Connie Allen again actually in my career what I found out in David edgell who’s with us today he’s one of the planners in my office very involved with a ICP mom some of them you might know him the first thing I would tell anyone was inform your boss that doesn’t help

Sometimes because Pat you said it your job may be in jeopardy and I’ve heard that several times from other colleagues will I have to follow the guidelines that have been given to me for this job I would hope that somewhere in the office or in the jurisdiction there is

An attorney and I would say go to your attorney and lay it out on the line just for your ethical for your personal because God forbid you did lose that job someone else would want to hire you and one thing that’s works for me and my professional career is

And I’ve been lucky enough to work with a lot of people and they have accepted it my comments in this vein you hired me to give you the very best information I can as an AICD plan I do understand that you as someone that’s been elected has a

Different power so please let me give you that information I’ve even said that in public hearings this is the information if in fact you get information contrary to that or it can be disputed then you have the right to look at it further or make the final

Decision and it’s made my life a little easier it has complicated my life from time to time but I think you’ll always find as a planner if you stay on the straight and narrow as we’re talking today and you walks like a duck talks I

Can touch it is a duck we come from a very very small state they laugh and they say either I’ve been married to the person or went to school with a person or work with the person so therefore I know everybody I had a second cousin if

We have a moment that came with an application I didn’t touch the application I didn’t set at the diocese I didn’t put the report together I wasn’t even in building when it was heard so I think it’s if you can adhere to that might make your life a little

Easier I think the words are excellent khania and it’s always better to err on the side of being overly ethical there’s nothing no amount of money in the world is worth you what your reputation is and once that has been sullied you know Donald Trump can bring his checkbook at

It’s not going to bring it back to what it was let me bring up one of the comment that has come up on the website and then once we do that we’ll probably need to move on the comment is it seems that Debra didn’t know the farm was

Owned by a family member until she got the call what happens if uncle Stan never made the call and the ownership discovery was made after the project was approved how would Deb prove it was not a conflict Wow he’s very difficult brenda was the conflict but certainly here in Delaware

Where everybody’s remains in the fight but you know on it on the first on the face of it you have to assume you know okay she honestly didn’t up but by the same token it’s a small town she knows what a project is she owes her family

Why wouldn’t she know it’s her family farm and an excellent point as well maybe never revealed it before he left for his 15-year on vacation in the big house whatever came back whatever was but what but no I’d be very difficult to do that somebody own some of the

Comments we received your talk about transparency and you need to have it that’s part of the transparency if you know something even though it’s in thought and stated you still have to make that known you protect that public process so the transparencies there and that’s that’s the trust lb comes in

Public service and Glenn put it in his remarks at the beginning where he said planners must exercise common sense as well again it sometimes common sense is not common uh but we would hope it would would be so Peter are we ready for our second skit ok let’s roll the cameras

Financial hardship and developer greed is not limited to the town of Dell the Planning Commission of Blackwell County Delaware has before it an attractive proposal that may save the county but at what cost to both taxpayers and the county’s aicp planner or lean Smithson let’s find out as the thespians return

Because there’s lithium in them there hills world black wall County Delaware has been struggling with a stagnant economy and a lack of economic development of job growth for years much of the farmland a swampy and has less production than other parts of the state the county has had little luck enticing

Other employers to locate in the county the residents are weary and eager for change a sentiment echoed by the County Council but then out of the blue and economic development opportunity presents itself that looks like you could save the county listen in on the planning commission meeting where we

Discussed for the first time in public I would like to call this meeting of the Blackwell Planning Commission to order tonight we have the conditional use application for eco resource mining corporation LOL scenes to allow for an extractive use in the southern area of our county first i would like to call

The applicant to the podium to give a presentation about their application good evening members of the Commission I’m Marvin less wealth CEO of eco resources mining corporation LLC I have tremendously good news for this fine County of yours my corporation has located a sizeable deposit of lithium in

Your southern territories you may not know it yet in order to rid our nation from the dependency on foreign oil and save the world from greenhouse effect and global warming we’re going to have to all start driving electric cars electric cars are just months away from reduction and most run on lithium ion

Batteries the market demand will be huge and we need lots of lithium and that we can get that’s why we are now proposing to invest over 1 billion and that’s billion with a V dollars in your community over the next five years mining this lithium the property owners will all benefit

Directly but everyone in your county will prosper because of our investment there will be jobs and mining of course but think of the need for housing restaurants shopping centers doctors new utilities building permit fees and the list just goes on so I ask you tonight to grant our conditioner you should

Crest so we can defeat the terrorists by reducing our need for their oil disapproval will ensure economic prosperity for your county thank you thank you mr. Luss well are there any questions from the Commission well yeah mr. laswell how will you mind the lithium well thank you for asking that

That’s a great question lithium lies just below the surface and is found throughout the southern part of the county fortunately it is not hard to get you at all when we secure the rights to the farmer’s land we bring in some really big excavators and dump trucks

And just start scooping it up here’s a picture of one of our other mining operations okay what happens when you are done hmm um what well well this goes on for some time at least five years or so and then what um um well what we will

Come back to you to discuss you know to discuss it then and by that time we may be able to find some technology to use the other stuff we dig out then maybe just fill in the hole and plant some trees you can pick the trees if there

Are no further questions I’d like to ask our county planner to give their report and recommendation Thank You commissioners I review the application and first would like to acknowledge the economic impacts of this type of project I did some research in other counties where lithium mining is taking place and

Addie the short-term economic gain is large not only is there likely to be substantial direct investment by the company but the workers filling the jobs will need housing and services the town of Blackwell will likely see a booming construction and association in structure investment however I do have

Some concerns first such a large influx of population in a short period of time will require both the town in the county to invest huge sums on infrastructure second this boom will only last for five years or so at which time the workers will leave and we may be no better off

Than we are now and finally the mining lands will be environmentally decimated and will never recover there will be no going back to farming this will impact our long-term economy water quality and our quality of life in general Blackwell County may turn out to be a place that

None of us wants to live after mining is over so i recommend that we table the application and do a detail madam chairman it excuse me madam chairman I think what our fine planner is trying to say is that we would need to do some more studies to accommodate the mining

Company but there’s really no reason at this point to delay this application actually that is not what I was suggesting at all are you quite sure of that I would like to add that we are not in any position to delay it takes a while to move all that Earth and get to

The lithium these cars are coming on the market really soon and every day another polar bear loses an ice floe that he calls home who wants that on their conscience order all due respect a county administrator I think we’ve heard enough discussion you know both sides really do have good boys we need

Economic development in a bad way I can’t even sell all my teeth flea market to pay my bills right now last week my nephew got noticed that their poor closing on this trailer I mean it’s just a trailer and he can’t hold on to it times are hard and polar bears are no

Polar bears we need help now I can appreciate that times are tough for all of us but I have to ask what are we going to end up with yes we can all make some money for five years or so but then what if the land is all torn up and

There is no plan to restore it who will want to come live here then what will we be leaving for our kids our planner has always tried to give us both sides of the story and I say we give her another month to do some research before we make a

Difficult decision I tend to agree if this is such a good deal today it will be a good deal a month from now as they say you don’t know what you’ve got till it’s gone do I hear a motion I move we table the application to allow our

Planner to do a more detailed study all in favor aye hey earlene the long-suffering planner is a county mate she’s no stranger to controversy but is this one just too much for her to handle her night is not yet over mmm look now as she’s walking

Back to her office someone from her past would like a word with her earlene earlene you traitor wait up it’s me cousin Bobby We Need to Talk what do you want Bobby I already paid you that money I owed you from the poker game at the last family reunion and don’t you ever

Try to get me to drink that stuff again I was sick for three days now look here earlene this ain’t much about reunion or poker and all I can’t help if you got a weak stomach I want to talk about real money you know this family’s never had a

Chance like this except maybe maybe you miss educated college person you’ve always been a no-good smartypants always looking down your nose on me and all of us work on the farm and you’re always wanting to wait and see and do another reporter study you got no common sense

In these matters don’t blame me but you never got off the farm I told you to get your GED I don’t care anything about a TD thing Ivan busted my hump since we were kids on the farm and besides nature is here to serve us you got to remember

How hard it is work on this farm in the swamp it’s wetting their bugs and snakes now this family’s got a real chance a chance of the big payoff you know what to do with all of that money you had waste it and what about the farm it

Would be gone see this is what I was talking about all this education no common sense it doesn’t matter thing about the farm as long as we get paid from what I see none of us are going to want to live here after they’re done anyway as for me I’m packing up the

Truck and moving north perhaps the hope Kesson imagine that need living next door to crazy Joe me and Linda son ourselves by the pool maybe a new metal outbuilding for my woodpile a new tractor why am I even trading the old fort for a range rover with he leather

Seats how long the frames river makes a duel with a diesel engine so it is all about the money you’re still in the will earlene you don’t have as big of percentages me but it may be enough for you to get out of here for good if

You’re smart enough you do it early retreats her office to collect her thoughts she was not ready to have what our Bobby again the two of them going at it for years she barely has time to reflect on the task of research and the possible consequences of mining when she

Is painfully reminded that her employer may have other ideas about her study Smith’s son what in the wide world of sports was that crap you just pulled in there that is not what we talked about before the meeting ma’am you know about my concerns hey I agreed with you about

The economic impact as well you should but what about all the other crap about the long-term what does the long-term matter if we can’t make ends meet today it means everything I have to think about the long-term consequences of present actions I am a planner oh excuse

Me while I sing the star-spangled banner that’s all well and good but you don’t have to say things like that at the meeting though we need this company’s investment now remember I don’t work for you you work for me simple concept and we both work for counsel and they don’t

Want this delayed if we lose this mining contract to another County we are toast toast and you know what that means I’m doing my job yeah but with you and your concept of job is always doing more studies unless we get some economic development here and tax money we may

Both be out of a job and then you can do you study at home as long as you want you put that in your study I’ve just about had it with you I’m going to walk out of here and I’m going to take a look

At your personnel file and I think be in my office tomorrow morning I will look at it together kids all I wanted was for you to grow up and know the county the way I did when I was living on the farm her present employment very much in question her

Lean calls it a night walking out to the car she comes face to face with a man who never seems to make sense but does he miss missin its lesson oh hi Daniel what are you protesting tonight trying to save the polar bears you did a very

Courageous thing in there standing up to the administrator she is so mean and so short-sighted well I may have won the battle but lost the war she is my boss you know and the County Council just wants economic development right now but really what are you out here for tonight

Anyway I’m trying to save our County from those strip miners this whole thing has made me seen my hybrid in a whole new light I can’t even bear to drive it now I didn’t know it was so environmentally damaging building those batteries I want to stop global warming

And save the polar bears too but we shouldn’t have to give up our county to do it I need your help we need your help who is we I just see you and you come to every single meeting I appreciate your input but one person does not make a

Movement don’t you understand I’m standing up for all the people who are not representative every single meeting for the future because they are not get here even defend themselves I know I know I was just thinking about my kids and what we are going to be leaving for

Them if my cousin and the council get their way it won’t be much but they’ll have the money to move away tomorrow I’ve got got to get my butt chewed out again first thing then start working on next month’s report so folks what am I

Going to do why not start by giving me a ride I left my hybrid at home and the bus doesn’t run this late remember carpooling is good for the environment and it’s the small things we do that had two big changes earlene is sure in a tough spot between

The Planning Commission her boss her worries about her children’s future and her cousins pressure assume that she caves in and presents the conclusion that everyone seems to want which is that this project will bring all short and long-term benefits to the county and should be approved what violations of

The code of ethics do you find let’s return to our live panel and hear both there and your takes on what we have just heard okay let’s try that again let’s head back to the panel discussion this time I’ve asked Connie’s Holland to take the lead on summing up the various little

Attacks on our code that have been made within this skit so Connie if you want to take it from here Thank You Pat I’m going to do it a little different this is near and dear to my heart and if you’ll give me just one minute I’m going

To explain why I really do know what the violations are in a previous life in my career I was County Planning Director and I can use this gentleman’s name because he’s no longer with us and you can take that however you’d like to but his name was Fred and I think you all

Have one in your community he would rather ask forgiveness than actually do the right thing so I got a call and they said mrs. Holland there’s a huge huge hole and the property next to us what do you suppose it is well it was in a time

When the state of Delaware was actually putting on State Route one and every farmer and every landowner wanted to have what we call borrow pit in our state X but extractive use so I thought I’d better go with the building inspector and see what this whole was

About so we go out to the property and there’s Fred with a backhoe and it is a huge hole and I said Fred what are we doing here well he said I’m thinking a home I’m digging a pond everybody was sticking upon him these days I said well

That’s fine you have a farm 10 acres that’s the definition in Delaware but you can’t what are you doing the matter that you’re taking out of it material taken out it well I’m I’m stuff on it I said ok can’t do that you can take that material and put it anywhere on your

Property which you can’t do that so you have to cease and assist if you’re if it’s going off the property yes ma’am I always got yes ma’am four or five days later the people said do you want to come out and see that you’re not doing your job because

There’s trucks lined up and by the way they have bailed out stickers on them that’s our department of transportation in this state I said yes ma’am I’ll be right out there so there we go again and I said Fred you cannot do that you’re making the state look bad they’re not

Aware you don’t have a conditional-use that’s what you have to do in the state of Delaware after a lot of language that I won’t bore you with he swore he’d come in and apply well he did but before the castle this is what he said when he

Stood up first of all I want my money back from my conditional use because I’m saving taxpayers in this state of Delaware a ton of money because I’m just given that soil and sand to the state which he wasn’t and furthermore I should really be you should be so pleased with

Me because after this is over this is going to be a county swimming pool so the fact of the matter this this is a wonderful thing and I just want to hand it to you as my counsels all gasping one council member says we better think

About this wouldn’t it be a great idea there’s no children out there there’s no people after we’re going to come to those language so as we’re laughing through this this is real life this gentleman had no idea of how he was going to reclaim that area the state of

Delaware had no idea that he really didn’t have a conditional-use because this is about 20 years ago or 15 years ago and they didn’t check and it just kept rolling on and on it think about all the problems that we had with ethics in this scenario back to the skip I

Think the violations that we actually have seen here is the fact of the matter our overall responsibility to the public I think earlene was wonderful she realized that she was not giving a kind of market hey we have special concern for long wearing long-range consequences earlene was extremely aware as were

Several others that this might be the short-term fix but this was a farming community and the fact of the matter is they were in dire straits but they may never come back someone may excuse the term– rate this land and have no restoration restoration plan for it and you could even have the

Farming community that you had for so she was well aware of that she was well aware that she needed his special attention to the interrelatedness of the decision she saw what was coming f we shall see special justice for by working to expand choice and opportunities of all people and recognizing a special

Responsibility to plan for everyone for the disadvantaged and for economic environment and I think she was aware of that there again this was a quick fix that probably wasn’t going to help anyone except the developer and if it got tough for the developer I think maybe this is just my opinion he might

Have skipped down to in a way we would have been with a great big extracted use with no restoration plan the design and the conservation and to preserve the integrity that’s gee that wasn’t happening either our responsibility to our profession and colleagues I think the planner she was a pretty good

Planner as you choose she wanted to educate the public about the issues and the relevance to their daily lives and and going down the rules of conduct she was trying to deliberately give them adequate and timely and clear information she wasn’t allowed to do that there were just many many things

Here number six in our code of ethics we shall not perform work with a client in addition to the agreed upon compensation of our client in our employer and there was a possibility of direct personal financial gains we we’ve heard that in both of these skits por hora por early

You know with with the cousin coming to her and kind of putting in our in situation where she was I think she no way wanted that money but didn’t want to put her family to disadvantage and of course he made her think about her kids in the future

Private discussions went on to that she probably should have walked away from here old cousin Bobby he wasn’t helping her and the county administrator that was a whole other scenario that as I talked about when I gave comments from when we first were introduced she was

Looking at losing your job and she was in a clear dilemma of how to keep her job but also work with her with the county administrator so she was in quite a pickle and I’ll turn it over to add and then or anybody else on the staff

That has comments about every move I see this again as being a very difficult thing to resolve and especially given the economic situation that many of us are in these days we have special concern in this case for the long-range consequences of present actions that the planner has been talking about but the

Very next point in the code is we shall pay special attention to the interrelatedness of decisions and the issue that’s a point here is it’s very difficult to view long-term issues and short-term gain on an even footing I think she has done potential financial interest societal to we can talk about

That later I think she’s done a pretty good job of presenting the information the way that it should be presented without specifically drawing conclusions and oftentimes were placed in positions where our advice is not so much welcomed as our presentation of the facts and allowing an elected body like the

Planning Commission in this case to make a decision based on those facts I think you’re spot on there I mean I’m sure every planner in this room right now as it more than one occasion felt like you were tolerated rather than rejoice because you were in the room

Tony this is a case study if you will that has a lot of nuance associated with there’s a metamorphosis with the planner at one point she thinks about her kids and is clearly thinking about the long-range consequences and then as we go on I think that she’s caving in under

The pressure of the administrator and uh and and the prospect for financial gain and she’s thinking about instead of the the future that her kids have in the community she’s thinking about the money that her kids will drive and benefit from the decision so she’s clearly got a

Lot of pressures that have caused her to change the direction in which she originally wanted to go in uh and i think that the that the the problems are many including a where the activist says that he represents the people who aren’t there every all of us were planners who

Present a project before planning commission’s we hear the developers today and it’s sort of a silent majority ploy uh that well yeah there are 10 people here speaking against this but there are probably 50 more people who are in favor of it similarly the the the opposition to projects they pull the

Same thing so it’s it’s a very complicated set of issues but but clearly number once you should have recused herself okay and I’ve let you be quiet for too long yeah I was gonna say as soon as the Bobby made the the overtures you know if she was done

Because I was concerned I’m just taking myself out of that process here’s another problem though and that administrator came in here and said and remember I don’t work for you you work for me we vote for four counts well what the administrators are getting obviously they all work for the

Residents of that County great a narrative people that they ought to be representing and and that’s a very valid point but how many times have threats been made like that I mean that again that was one of the things that was crafted into that particular skit things

That would show would highlight one of the points within the code not necessarily being mangled but certainly being you know give slapped assembly was like well she’s definitely being pulled to wake obviously she wants to do the right thing that’s trying to do the right thing now she’s paying the price

For having done the way thing at the first hearing now the question is can she do the right thing on the second second phases and she’s now she’s quibbling with herself but she’s been compromised I’m like economic game the possibility yeah true one of the comments that’s come in on via the web

Here is and i’m going to paraphrase asking if we had to include so many violations of the code both the aspirational and the code of ethics in each skid saying that art and forgive me if i’ve gotten this wrong person if real situations aren’t a little more

Clear-cut and that were only one or two things happen the peanut gallery is sitting at the back of the room is shaking their head and laughing in a plus at harmonious fashion about that one Jeff you don’t address that I think if you take the whole issue of financial

Gain out of this case study I think it really is one of the more subtle ones that I’ve seen simply because the actions that the planner has taken to this point generally seem to me to be fairly consistent with the code of ethics I think she’s really taken a lot

Of the competing elements and tried to provide pretty good objective information about that the really pointed question she provides at the end I think it’s something for us to consider and and if you look at to be under aspirational principles we shall accept the decisions of our employer concerning the objectives unless the

Course of action is illegal I don’t really think it is here or plainly inconsistent with our primary obligation to the public interest in this case is our primary obligation to the long-term future or is our primary obligation to the short-term game so i don’t know if it’s really i know what my personal

Position would be and it would probably mirror hers but i’d be interested in the rest of the panel’s take on whether she’s violating to be or whether she really does does just need to take her employers opinion into account i know personally after having gone through all

The study for this session and in preparation I would be very much inclined to pick up the phone and call paul farmer at this point just simply to you know as a check of my own some compass that’s a really good idea Connie to reiterate that I think this is just a

Real-life skip both of them have it as I explained before I started this or after it was over this happens in the office of Kent County Delaware monthly and I we see it all over the state and I I believe that you really have to look at the code of ethics and professional

Conduct and all you know live by them and ask questions of an attorney or a paul farmer and get that information because it’s never that cut and dry it really is just never that cut and dry and I couldn’t agree with you more what I’d like to do I’m looking at the clock

Right now and I wanted to make a couple comments and then I’m going to go back to our panel members because I’ve asked each of them to share a horror story were a pearl of wisdom with us one of the things that come to mind for me some

Of you folks with your baby boomers like I am may remember from sometime in the 80s there was a show called Herman’s head and this individual was presented on a weekly basis with some moral dilemma and it didn’t have to be you know whether to save the world or

Whatever but something that was a import to that particular generation and then you saw what was going on inside his head there were four different components one was the woman who played the angel and the sweet better nature and oh everything was a sweetness and light and then there was

The big bubble kind of guy who would you know belch scratch have a beer and you know go at it his way and then you had two more tempestuous personalities and in some ways and reflecting on ethics we all suffer from Herman’s head at different times in our careers that you

Just have to be aware of that fact and always try to take the higher Road one of the things I’ve generated in my own experience has been something that I refer to as either the egg principle of the egg balance and egg standing for ego glory and greed and when those are all

Kept in check to a certain extent we operate as moral people in this society of ours and yet when they’re left unchecked then we have things such as what we heard with mr. less well it is strip mining and the other villains of our plays so that’s my attempt at pearls

Of wisdom and I’m going to turn it back and Tony you’ve been fairly quiet so i’m going to pick on you first if you want to start in my 40 some years of experience i thankfully have never encountered but for one i had a situation where a lady said can I bribed

You and I got clarity transparency right I I take it she thought that I was not given to subtleties I should be she put it right out there so I I let her know no uncertain terms that was not the case but in in most situations the the the

Conflicts are much more subtle uh and and and sometimes not so much a question of right or wrong but a perhaps a question of professional propriety my personal likes as a professional planner what what do I bring to a situation sting to the arguments of the public listening to the arguments of the

Developer up and and in the final analysis one has to stick to the ordinances the regulations and has to do that in a fair and objective way but only once was I offered a bribe I don’t even know what it was we never got that far okay Jeff how about you well I

Appreciate you inviting someone from the dark side of consultant to uh to the panel because oftentimes you know I having been in the worked with a lot of other firms and seeing what they do I think there tends to be I don’t know a little bit of its not overt gifts or

Things but but some behavior no you know going out to dinner together or something like that that really kind of treads on the gray area of a point five about receiving something from someone who may be involved in a decision so I think we are involved in consulting to

The public sector really need to be very careful and sometimes maybe a little I guess uppity about making sure that we don’t present even a the appearance of there being a conflict one point that that really stuck out to me that I hadn’t noticed a lot of the code before

We started preparing for this is the idea of point 16 we shall not accept work that we know cannot be performed within the promptness required by the prospective client in my business I I work on a lot of projects that are funded by grants and it’s very common

For a client to not realize quite how much time they’re taking to issue a request for proposals and review that request for proposals and eventually they realize they’re up against it in terms of getting the work done before that grant expires and it can really be

A difficult position to be in when you realize you have six or nine months worth of work to do at three months to do it in fortunately we’ve been able to work with them to to make to get extensions for grants or things like that but if there were a

Situation where they couldn’t get an extension and we were selected for a project and asked to enter a contract I’m not sure we could in good conscience do that knowing that we couldn’t get the work done I can sympathize because I’ve been for a brief period of time on the

Dark side so okay i’m going to move ahead we have about three and a half minutes for Connie and Ed to split okay picking up on Jeff’s commentary on transparency and accepting the gray area if you all guess during my tenure with the county we had a very high profiled

Developer representative who basically insisted on taking me to lunch to discuss his clients application and I refused I just would not go lunch with them and just got to the point where he would come to the office sometimes twice three times a week trying to get me to

Lunch and finally just saying look you cannot take me to lunch you have something to discuss about your applicant and your application will discuss it any office and that also allow me the luxury of bringing all the staff people if I don’t know the answer

To your question ed are you sure it was about the project farming what was that love you dearly keep on go ahead okay anyway it was it was hard for that person to understand from the dark side if you will that one I wasn’t going to entertain him or don’t have lunch with

Him but the other problem is that so I did do that I went out and thats a developer he was in the room and I was having lunch and saw me having lunch with developer ray oh that’s how we get this process going we need to take out

The director for lunch you know that kind of thing so a perception is everything in public service if it looks bad that you have a tough road to hoe right to there so you got to avoid that perception amen brother Connie mop it up I’ll hurry up it’s really funny I at my

Heater went out and if anybody knows me you know everything about me because it came in the office and I start don’t have to get a heater how much it’s going to cost well just that neither so I started contacting people and all of a

Sudden so I give you a great deal mrs. all Holland you know and I went to two or three DS and I realized that through the process somehow they either come through for rezoning they had kind of conditional years you know they were gone they were developer they were going

To come back to me they were a home builder and I go oh wow so I had a really great George Gardner God blessing he’s in heaven now but I do with my attorney to go to and I said George what I do he said well we just got to find

Somebody that you haven’t worked with and i had to pay more for that i had to go to the most expensive person in in the state to get it because they had been through the county process I had that we hadn’t touched each other in any

Way and people said why was I so worried about that and I will say to all of you are listening planners are never going to get rich I’m not gonna I just hope all my skin stone they say she was a hoot and she didn’t take any brats

Absolutely my tunes tombstones gonna say clearance at the top cuz that’s my husband apply ok I really want to thank all the folks who have sent comments and you’ve been wonderful we’ve been having a blast sitting here reading them we were trying to answer them as they came

But to let you know what we’re going to do is once we close this session we’re going to sit here and collect the comments if you have put your enter the right contact information there we’ll try to get back to you or what we may do

Is send them all on to paul farmer and let him know these are the concerns that are out here some of the comments are really very very good and i thank you for those i do offer my apologize to apologies to the individual who was upset about developers being called on

The dark side but you know that’s not my Mayock opal that was brought up by the gentleman who’s sitting over there who is working for a consulting firm so what can I say alrighty again I’d like to thank honey Holland Etta Donnell 22 jacamo Jeff rig nur for sitting here and

Letting me have an absolute blast working with you folks and all of us want to thank dr. peter von glahn for putting together the electronics for this presentation we would not function without Peter so that that’s a definite and I have to say this

To close as a scene from the one of the films of men in black when the little aliens were hailing the person who was you know responsible for answering all questions now you know they said all hail Z but I think we have to go all hail Paul because Paul is the ultimate

Be-all and end-all in terms of answering the questions on ethics so you gotta love a man who’s willing to act like father confessor to 50,000 people so Paul we wish you good health for many many years to come and I believe I need to turn it over to our closing remarks

Now this concludes the web guest I want to thank the members of the Delaware chapter that have performed in the skits bill broken bra Mike on Andre tbilisi at meili Janelle cornwell herb engine peter von blon and our narrator Derek Lightfoot this session has been approved for one and one-half ethics cm credits

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