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فيلم: مسکن و حمل و نقل برای بومرها و فراتر از آن
Title:مسکن و حمل و نقل برای بومرها و فراتر از آن این وبکست فقط برای مشاهده در دسترس است، برای اعتبارات AICP CM قابل استفاده نیست. ۹-۲۸-۲۰۱۲ ارائه دهندگان: جانا لینوت و رادنی هارل این وبینار آخرین داده های ملی و ایالتی در مورد مسکن و حمل و نقل مربوط به جمعیت سالخورده را در […]
Title:مسکن و حمل و نقل برای بومرها و فراتر از آن
این وبکست فقط برای مشاهده در دسترس است، برای اعتبارات AICP CM قابل استفاده نیست. ۹-۲۸-۲۰۱۲ ارائه دهندگان: جانا لینوت و رادنی هارل این وبینار آخرین داده های ملی و ایالتی در مورد مسکن و حمل و نقل مربوط به جمعیت سالخورده را در اختیار شرکت کنندگان قرار می دهد. بشنوید که چگونه نرخ ناتوانی، ساختار خانواده، نرخ سلب حق اقامه دعوی، و سن خانه ها در دهه تغییر کرده است، زیرا خانوارهای مسن با چالش های جدید و مداوم سازگار می شوند. بیاموزید که برای رسیدگی به مسائل مربوط به مقرون به صرفه بودن چه کاری انجام می شود. آخرین الگوهای سفر افراد بالای ۶۵ سال را همانطور که در نظرسنجی ملی سفر خانواده در سال ۲۰۰۹ مشاهده شده است، بدانید. استراتژی های بخش دولتی و خصوصی را که کارشناسان برنامه ریزی AARP برای ایجاد جوامع مادام العمر توصیه می کنند، بشنوید. در طول وبینار، مجریان ویدیوی جدید ۶٫۵ دقیقهای خود را با عنوان «زندگی فعال برای همه سنین: ایجاد جوامع در حوالی حمل و نقل» نشان میدهند و در مورد اینکه چگونه صدای افراد مسنتر ساکن در محلههای TOD VA میتواند به پیروزی در بحث راه رفتن کمک کند، بحث خواهند کرد. جوامع با کاربری مختلط
قسمتي از متن فيلم: Hi my name is Benjamin Lee and I just want to welcome everyone it is not 1 p.m. so we’ll begin our presentation shortly today on September 28th we’ll have our presentation on housing and transportation for the boomers and beyond for help drink today’s webcast please feel free to type your questions
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Archive and also on youtube at this time I would like to introduce our speakers Ronnie and John Rodney hero kst is a senior strategic policy advisor for housing and livable communities in AR peace Public Policy Institute in his position he is responsible for developing a AR peace policy on housing and livable
Communities issues and he’s also managing the house housing research agenda and conducts independent research Jonna allina aicp is the senior strategic policy advisor for transportation and livable communities in AARP Public Policy Institute she manages a AR peace transportation research agenda and is responsible for developing the content of the livable
Communities chapter of the AAR peace policy book adopted by the AARP Policy Council and board her research covers a board array of planning and policy issues including Street design for all users the travel patterns of older adults transit service needs and older driver safety and I’ll hand it over to Jana Jana
Okay sorry about that everyone I struggled to find the button to unmute myself but as I had wanted to say and was talking into the mic when you could not hear me thank you very much been for that introduction and also I want to thank the Virginia chapter for hosting
Us this afternoon or this morning for those folks who are joining us from the West our presentation is on transportation and housing for boomers and beyond so we’re talking about really the aging of America and what the implications are for the planning community in terms of our presentation
Today I’m going to start off and be kind of your data person and provide a lot of information on trends that we’re seeing in the United States hit a little bit upon what the implications are especially in the area of Transportation and then turn the presentation over to
My colleague dr. Rodney Jurrell who’s going to talk about the some of the housing trends as well as housing policy implications and implications for planning so to begin just looking at this chart here we all know that our nation is aging and this just puts some of that into perspective I’ve pulled
Some numbers for the 50 and older population even though we often think of an older population as 65 and older we also need to be thinking of those who are moving toward retirement in understand that age wave because the great majority of older adults do age in
Place in the homes and communities where they’re living pre-retirement so today there are about a hundred million persons 50 and older living in the United States that’s about thirty two percent of the total population and in the next twenty eight years we’re expecting to that share to grow to about
Thirty six percent of the population if you were to pull these same numbers for the 65 and older population today we have about thirteen percent of our total population is aged 65 and older expected to grow by 2020 25 20 30 to around twenty percent of the total poppy
Nation-now one subset of this population is what we know as boomers those born between 1946 in 1964 2011 mark the year the first of the baby boom generation reached what used to be known as retirement age of 65 and for the next 18 years boomers will be turning 65 at a
Rate of about eight thousand to ten thousand a day this next line graph really shows the projections for different older groups and it reflects both the sizable boomer population aging through the lifespan as well as the fact that our nation’s life expectancy is increasing thus for the next 20 years
The population age 65 to 80 for in the population 85 and older are expected to grow a very similar rates however as baby boomers begin to turn 85 the age 85 + population will grow dramatically it’s really this age group that’s most likely to need long-term services and supports including transportation accessible
Housing etc but as we well know a gene the effects of aging really hit individuals at very different points in their life so it may be 85 for one individual may be 65 for another and we really as a community of planners needs to be thinking ahead as to what the
Implications are and be prepared for an aging population another major trend is that most of the growth of the 50-plus is going to come from an increasing diversity in our nation’s population you can see the bottom bar the white population holds fairly study between now and 2050 and the real growth in this
Population is coming from population of Hispanic Latinos blacks as well as agents another trend that we’re watching is that the number of multi-generational households in the united states is growing and while it’s still a minority share of households in the united states we are more recently seen an uptick in this popular
Which reflects both the recent recession with older adults moving home with their parents right out of college but also seeing it as an effect of an aging population older parents moving in with their younger adult children for assistance we also have what’s called sandwich generations where you may have
Boomers who are still caring for a child in their household in assisting mom or dad with some of the life needs and finally that trend reflects an increasing diversity in the population as well and you can see that non white households are much more likely to be multi-generational whereas about 3% of
White households are multi are have someone 50 and older living with the grandchildren 15% of hispanic households have someone 50 and older living with a grandchild we also need to think of the aging change in the context of the recent recession and downturn of the economy in the fact that for non white
Households black Hispanic Latino Asian African American these households on a national scale lost more than fifty percent of their net worth between 2005 and 2009 so then the need for affordable housing and other for affordable services has grown in this country another trend is that older adults are postponing retirement retirement age is
Not necessarily 65 any longer and while the recession has augmented this trend it certainly could be seen on the red bar among men and women 65 and older who are increasing numbers in the labor force now part of the overall effect of what’s happening is that by and large
Older adults are choosing to remain in their local communities in their homes as they age and the great majority wish to do that and when you look at census migration data it’s true less than 15 folks actually move from their community to the Sun build another retirement
Location and even among those as they reach an older age of 85 we see sort of the reverse trend of people returning to be close to their families and support networks also the the majority of older adults live in either suburban or rural areas and as planners we realize that
That presents additional challenges to providing services to a population one in five adults 65 and older do not drive and if you’re lucky enough to live until your age 70 on average there will be 7 to 10 years at the end of your life span when you no longer drive another trend
Is that even though disability rates in this country are on the decline the number of older adults who are living with disabilities in the community is rising and that’s not only because there are more older adults in communities and those older adults are more likely to have a disability than younger persons
But also the effect of decreased instant rates of institutionalization fewer and fewer people are choosing nursing homes most people are choosing to stay in their homes and try to reach services that they need and certainly as people age they’re more likely to have a disability that makes it hard to travel
So folks 80 and older thirty percent more than thirty percent of men more than forty percent of women have a medical condition that does make it difficult to travel outside the home and having a disability affects older adults in not only their ability to drive but also their ability to access public
Transportation and just get around their communities on foot fall related deaths and hospitalizations are more than double those for motor vehicle injuries for those 65 and older and they cost the united states over 80 million dollars annually that’s nine thousand dollars per fall in direct medical and long-term care costs
Also streets can impose additional risk to older adults and this is a chart that shows pedestrians average risk of death by vehicle speed in the United States for pedestrians of all ages mixed together and you can see if you’re hit as a pedestrian by a motor vehicle at 32
Miles per hour you have a 25-percent risk of death increasing the vehicle speed to just 42 miles an hour increases it really doubles your risk of death and that is even more so the case for older adults because of their increased fragility and frailty the average risk
Of severe injury or death of a seven-year-old pedestrian struck by a car at 25 miles per hour is similar to the risk for a 30 year old pedestrian struck at 35 miles per hour I want to talk just a moment about some additional travel trends of boomers that we’ve been
Pulling through out of the National Household travel survey within the next couple of weeks I hope I will have another paper out on the travel trends of boomers really the impact of this generation on traveling the United States looking at travel from 1969 through 2009 and what we found is that
Boomers are really the demographic engine that has fueled the growth in the nation’s travel over the past 40 years and this can be demonstrated best probably through this chart this shows trends in per-capita miles of travel whether you’re choosing to travel by car bus bike walk etc all forms of travel
Comparing at each of these different time points baby boomers level of travel with all others and throughout their lifespan baby boomers on a per capita basis have had traveled more miles than other people outside of their age demographic another trend that we’ve found in this analysis is that when baby
Boomers hit their childbearing years and also with women boomers entering the workforce and record numbers that it was that age on 20’s through you know late 40s when Vic uler travel really skyrocketed and since that point since 1995 traveled by boomers and private vehicles has been on the decline but
Across their lifespan we’ve really seen a trend in per capita trip on public transportation increasing among this generation another way to look at this is to look at the sheriff trips or in planners speak the mode share of these different generations and between 2001 and 2009 for all age groups we’ve seen a
Decline and travel by personal vehicle and an increase in travel as a share of total trips that people make in on public transportation and this is really significant because in past travel surveys researchers documented a decline in use of public transportation among those 65 and older but we’re not finding
That true anymore in fact the Boomers increased as a share of trips on public transportation compared to the same age group in 2001 their use by forty six percent those 65 and older thirty-eight percent another trying to keep aware of just in terms of travel patterns is that just as i
Mentioned that older adults are postponing retirement they do have somewhat different travel patterns for the commute trip and 41 they telecommute more as you can see from this chart those 65 to 74 23% report always working from home and another trend is that they tend to commute there’s a higher
Proportion of people at least commuting in the shadows of the peak period so they tend to leave a little later in the morning and leave a little earlier in the afternoon with somewhat of a compressed schedule and then finally a a trend that we’ve looked at is travel for
Leisure groups over 50 folks are taking more trips but taking those trips closer to the home it’s become more of the weekend getaway of travel the exception to this is those 70 and older who are taking more trips and traveling further for those trips and so there’s a couple
Of things going on in terms of implications one you may see more um risk of traffic exposure on weekends on highway miles and also among those 70 and older it just really emphasizes the need to make sure our airports vehicles rail stations etc are very accessible
And can meet their needs as we move forward now just to move very quickly through some of the transportation innovations that we’d like to highlight for one really underscores the importance of integrating land use and transportation policy we know that this is good planning in planning the planning community has been working on
Mixed-use development transit oriented development for many years and we’re getting an increasing amount of data that suggests that this is beneficial to older adults as well and it can take any form whether it be very urban as in Arlington County Virginia’s transit oriented development or more rural transit oriented development that can be
Found in the state of Washington or Wisconsin look we’ve heard has some transit oriented development going downtown this is a video that we had hoped to show but we’ve told we’re told the technology can be problematic on these webinars so we won’t show it but I want to invite you
To come view the six and a half minute video on our website and it was filmed to really show the benefits of transit oriented development for older residents in Arlington County Virginia and you’re very welcome to use this for your own purposes and trying to communicate the
Message of why we need to do this type of planning we’re hoping that next year we can also shoot a videos of rural transit oriented development and considering the state of Washington that has absolutely fabulous inner city bus transportation network and it’s linking that to Tod nodes across the state so if
Any of you are calling in from the state of Washington and have ties for us that can help us connect with local planners elected officials as well as older residents who use this system we’d really love to hear from you AARP has been pushing passage of Complete Streets
Legislation and a number of our states we have state offices in each of our states as well as the District of Columbia Puerto Puerto Rico and for those who may not know a complete Street is safe comfortable and convenient for travel by all users regardless of how
You choose to get around and AARP really likes to emphasize regardless of age and ability and this gets back to some of those earlier slides that older adults whether they’re driving or whether they’re pedestrians they are the most vulnerable users and we need to be making sure that the street is safe and
Works for everyone we also have been doing research and work in the area of human services transportation and in particular the coordination of human services transportation now about five and point three percent of all trips taken by older non-drivers those are folks 65 and older are on specialized
Transportation if you split that up it’s nearly sixty percent of all of their public transportation trips that are taken on specialized transportation so we need to be thinking about both making the fixed route public transportation system work better for older users what we also cannot ignore
The fact that many of these folks need this more specialized service to get around and then also the importance of the private nonprofit sectors and providing rides to older adults two-thirds of trips taken by non-driver 65 and older our passengers and private vehicles then friends and family provide
At least a billion trips per year for older relatives 70 and older who no longer drive to the extent that government can support volunteer driver programs that’s a real plus there are many different forms that these can take in specialized transportation and then mobility management this is a new
Keyword in the transit industry and it it’s hard to describe in simple terms it really means so much and it depends on the type of system that an individual jurisdiction puts in place but it may take the form of a planner or someone acting in the capacity to really be that
Coordinator to develop local partnerships across the public transportation agencies human service agencies even the private sector nonprofit sector to develop those coordinated human services public transportation plans work through some of the institutional issues that can block a good coordination it also often takes the form of technology and having
Real-time bus information an automatic automated scheduling so that various entities that provide specialized or public transportation can share passengers and coordinate those trips in a very effective manner and it can also take the form of working directly with individuals in the community who need the transportation service to hook them
Up to the full realm of transportation service that exists in the community it’s not looking at a single mode but it’s looking at the whole cross section of resources in the community to meet the needs of individuals so at this point I want to turn over to a pole and
Then I think you have that pole yes then do i need to give you the keyboard oh no ok Ben do I need to do something hole up here oh it’s in progress okay i just don’t see it do you want to read the pole yeah sure
For folks who may not have the slides okay the question was choose the one item that best describes you first one already working in aging population and planning second one was joined to learn and include the needs of aging population in planning third one join to
Learn but have no plans to work on this issue observe sorry about the type of hope and sixty-four percent voted first one we have fifteen percent second one we have fifty four percent third we have twenty four percent and we have eight percent other and I’ll close the poll
And send it back to you okay well i have to i believe i’ve given rodney the the mouse if not Ronnie do you have control no I dunno okay let me try again so okay now I think you do you from to my screen Jenna it says I’m the presenter
But I don’t want to be so you should be the presenter would give me your keyboard and mouse it’s still be the presidential oh ok ok now hello everyone working this out long big made the procedure here Jenna I’ll just go ahead and do it for my computer if it’s
Confusing now all right and a little technical difficulties Jan and I usually are in the same city doing these things and I’m actually across the country now so so I could just go ahead and put my screen up and I’ll just do it from here this way
Nick we represent a place here we are so thank you Jana for that great introduction and it’s great to see so many of you are already thinking about these issues when working on them actually and hopefully those of you and that third category we can convince to
Pay attention to the needs of older adults and incorporate those into communities as we go but I’m going to cover our the housing issues specifically here when you get a little bit of setup first about some of the demographics and then get into some of the solutions that are out there first
Gen I mentioned our poll people that want to stay in their communities and how high those numbers are well we have equally or even higher numbers of people who would like to remain in their current residences first long as possible and it’s for the 50-plus as a
Whole it’s high 80s and as you can see here it moves up over time just last week some of the folks in other folks in a our keys public policy institute released a study our economics team Alyssa steady boomers and the Great Recession struggling to recover and we
Can see here that a lot of boomers and different categories have a concern of not being able to afford to stay in the home for the rest of their current life fifty-seven percent of those employed almost eighty percent of those unemployed and even half of those who
Are out of the labor force which are pretty much those that are retired or never work they’re all concerned about their ability to stay in their current home so the next two things I’m going to talk about are in a study you can see here state housing profiles we are
Released this late last year and we covered the entire country in every state and looked at housing affordability and other factors first we found out a few interesting things first of all we found out that a shift it happened during the last decade for the first ever we now have 50 plus householders
More owning with more games than without so that was to me one of the biggest shifts I saw the numbers seem relatively small but what you can see in from this table is the primitive runners stayed the same but that’s twenty percent in both years to blue in the red but we can
See that the percentage of owners with three clear and mortgages of basically switched places here this is one of the things that I think older adults are doing to try to survive in the current recession in aftermath see here now here’s a nationwide map you can see that
This isn’t the same at different parts of the country you can see that we’ve got higher percentages in Des in the West we’ve got lower percentages in the plain States and and the excuse me in part of the South Texas and surrounding states so and also the Northeast and the
Russian DC region so you see a lot of the areas of the country that have very high housing costs our places where more 50-plus offworlders own with mortgages these are folks that have tried to adapt to the cost of the area perhaps by taking on one mortgage debt over that
Time and now this chart is a little complicated but I’m going to talk about a couple of things I’m hoping to see my mouse for their these four groups are the income groups quartile with these are all twenty five percent of the population and so a focusing on that
Lois twenty-five percent of the population you expected to see that renters would have a high housing costs burdens by the way how’s across borders are those that spend more than thirty percent on housing this is thirty percent threshold as a standard in the housing field and we see that as the
Percentage of people that can afford their housing but also are able to pay any of life’s other emergencies or a cough so all of these people on the start of paying more than thirty percent and so expected the renter’s to be how you see that in the lowest quartile
Seventy percent and in the next court I’ll forty-eight percent of renters are having this housing cost burden but what was surprising was that nearly all of homeowners with mortgages in that lowest quartile and two-thirds of those in that second quartile are have housing cost burdens so if you’re not a higher income
Person and you see the these two on the right hand side are people with higher incomes they’re relatively okay but for folks on this side of the of the illness lower side of the income mix it’s a great deal of hardship in trouble now one thing I really want to point out to
Those of you in the audience that are familiar with these numbers is that forty-nine percent of home owners out mortgages those that are free and clear have a housing cost burden so even if you paid off your mortgage and you’re in your house outright still have energy
Costs property taxes of repairs etc and for those people not lowest group it’s almost half of those homeowners that don’t have mortgages so simply paying off your mortgage doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re not a victim or not not affected by these housing costs so we need to really pay attention to all of
Those groups as you look at these issues now the next here is this one here okay the next one here are the show that housing costs burns are worsening and they’re worsening for every group you can see here 2000s in blue and 2009’s in red and simply put for each of these
Income levels the red bars are higher that means that more people at the end of 2009 had how the cost boring than before another thing that shifted was a composition of households do too a range of factors I tired mostly to the increased divorce rate and the increased
Longevity for men are relative to women we do have more men living alone from ten to thirteen percent over that time and we have a slight drop in the married couples and we have a the other women living alone has also dropped slightly and other households as grown slightly
So what this draw attention to is the fact that most older girls do you live in relatively small household one or two-person households and so those are the households were talking about they’re not necessarily as large as the households that younger families have another issue we covered with disability
Rates the way that the Census Bureau asks these questions change so we couldn’t get into a comparison before and after but as we can see here that inventors have higher disability rates than older than a pool in our household and also that older adults have higher rates but even still if you’re talking
About 65 plus renters which are the highest category only fifty four percent have a disability by the measure that the Census Bureau used here and so that means that they’re a great number they’re doing with physical disability but great number that aren’t at the current plan as well and you can see
That those disability rates are also varied across the country that for those in the south those are relatively high and less so in some other regions of the country so what’s in those state having profiles be go to that website are the numbers for your state you can look at
Every state and I and you can see what is going on for your community another study that we’ve done a couple of years ago was this one on increasing Home Access designed for visit ability it was all look at trying to make homes that work for older adults one of our largest strategies
On the housing site is given that some older bills have those physical physical disabilities some don’t but we’ll have the bleeder and generally that people have a wider range of needs we wanted to figure out a way to make homes work for a range of people so I’m going to get
Into how to do that in a second here first of all these ways to do that go by many different names lifespan homes livable homes conclusive design visible homes these are all brand names or different variety of means if you might hear describing homes that meet universal design principles and and
Those principles are simply that at a home or any other thing that’s universally design will work for all users without adaptation or special design these are not necessarily homes that have ramps or medical style facilities for access and accessibility but these are homes that have the basic structural features that will allow
Anyone to live there now there are a range of different ways to do all of this to get these into homes you can do them through mandates for example Pima County Arizona requires that all homes have visibility features and so all homes that have been built there since
That law has been passed require those features required of just homes that are but with government funding assistance that’s using the logic that if tax dollars are involved we need to build homes that work for the widest range of people to be a better suit of our
Resources so that logic works in some places our friends in the building community prefer that middle column the voluntary incentives those rain from partial embracement of housing costs of the cost of adding these features a tax incentives tax credits things along those lines expedited permitting which is probably
One of the the the least difficult things to implement it’s free for local governments to do but it is a perspective for a builders and the like to add these features and then simple designation programs these again cost nothing but just simply by designating a homeless home for all ages are home for
Living or whatever brand name your community comes up with may encourage some builders to do that I Lancaster County Pennsylvania is one of those areas that I think is done some good work in that area and finally the option of information campaigns California requires a checklist of options be given
To all people that are getting a bit of a new home out the Builder has to provide several sheets of paper that list universal design options and you check those off sometimes those programs are not as effective as we would hope because people don’t have the awareness or understanding of how these features
Can benefit in so the second item in this column is equally or perhaps more important and other educational campaigns to let individuals and build us know what about what they’re doing and that’s also a lot of piece of the work that AARP does now what am I talking about when i talk about
Universal design and creating these things well i’m going to give you two examples here one visit ability now visit ability as i mentioned earlier is one of the more popular schemes to get more universal design features in the homes there are three main features as well step entrance access to a bathroom
On the first floor that has at least a five foot turning radius so for example someone with a wheelchair or walker kaduna birth in that bathroom and who 32 inch clear openings of doorways and hallways so what that means is someone that’s in using a mobility device such
As a walker or wheelchair can get through the hallways i can get into the home they can use the restroom proponents love this because it’s easy to understand it’s easy to explain to legislators and it makes the argument that we’re making these design changes not just for someone with disabilities
But in case anyone in that home is visited by someone in the community they need to to get in there so about some of the logic that’s worked with that proposal now one of the new varieties of this that AARP is working on is the inclusive home design now you see it’s
Many of the all three of those same features from visit ability but we’ve included a basic access to a full bath on the ground floor and not just a half habitable interior space which means a bedroom or bloom that can be used as a bedroom on the first floor kitchen that
Has those same spacing design features basically an open design that allows look at bringing inside there and lighting controls at reasonable heights if you’ve ever been in a hotel ballroom or any place that has to live up to Fair Housing Act or a DA excuse me a v8
Requirements you’ll see that they have outlets that are higher than the ones that are usually at your home those the reason that your outlets are seven inches or so from the ground are only because it’s just the way it’s always been done there’s no reason why the electric outlets can’t be a little
Higher and perhaps some of those controls for lights which isn’t like it could be low enough that people could reach whether they’re standing whether they’re sitting in a chair or wheelchair Oh have you so those are the luggage controls that you see here that we’ve created a scheme that allows communities
To build a home that not only can someone here is it but someone can live in there so for us this is a kind of a step up and soft will step up in difficulty in getting these things approved but step up in terms of what we’re getting people in these homes
Just a summary of our about model legislation what we did is we based it on the International Code Council and Angie American National Standards Institute standards from 2009 so it’s based within industry accepted standards and so for all the things I mentioned on the earlier page we’ve got a particular
Specific standards that are backed by that body so they’re not just skinny sit here he came up with what the other industry develop and we’re just asking that cities communities counties etc include them into what they’re they require for housing but why are these issues importance and I go to the
Trustee APA policy guide on housing that it’s not just for people that are elderly or older adults and with physical disabilities it’s for people without disabilities and children as well it’s much easier to push a stroller or even to carry a a big screen TV and
If you’ve got wide doorways and a zero step insurance so these are the kinds of features that really make homes usable for all and that’s really the theme behind universal design the next thing I’m going to cover is a more housing location piece this is another study
That we did a little while back we’re looking at how important location of housing was two other girls particularly those that were with low incomes in different cities and in subsidized housing and we found out some interesting things there and I’ll just to firm those quickly two examples one
From Cleveland Ohio now i’m hoping again that you can see my mouse here that there was one site slumber would comment which was more outside town but this one here we looked at coleman court on the right side number two here you can see the site is that light blue circle the
That inner circle is a quarter mile radius from that transit site the half-mile circles a little lighter the blue lines are the buff lines that run at least 15 minutes every day and the orange extra presents the actual trail on the array line and you can see that this
Site looked perfectly located it was right on top of the rail line about a hundred yards or so it was near busline so this was to be my great example of how a transit location could work and what I found out was that that wasn’t necessarily the case here’s a close-up
Of that area first year is Coleman Court a right next to st. Coleman’s church here’s the West 55 rapid transit line again right across the parking lot and and so here’s again looks like a perfect setup but what did I see when I got onto the ground first no number one here you
Can see that there’s a great design a DA accessible entrance that they added that head only recently been gone when I went to visit their put together but to get there you had to go through number three if you look at the map here at law and
Avenue which even if the outset of the recession in housing crisis had boarded up buildings these shade trees provide some shade during the day but during night there’s the street is not very well lit and there’s a story’s popular the building that someone had been robbed there at some point so because of
That very few of the residents wanted to actually go down log lawn avenue so let’s seem to be okay if you go out the other side here of the complex right outside madison there’s are an interest right there the secondary entrance but then number two here is a picture of
Madison avenue and you can see the beat up side wall and here in the bag you can sort of see the little green staircase that now google maps took this picture on a and a nice day and the reason I use that is because when I would there it
Was raining in that metal rusted staircase that goes down about a 50 feet or so is dangerous and flick and I didn’t go down there and I can imagine what it’d be to someone that is not physically able so so there’s long and short of it is fear
Of crime and safety issues at that point in time turn this potentially great location into one that didn’t work now on the other hand we went to Minneapolis and I’m going to talk about one side here Nicolette towers specifically and as you can see here it’s in downtown
Minneapolis with lots of things around it and it’s actually just outside of the radius that we’d normally would look at 4i trees or near development but what we found is that was very useful for the folks there again here’s the map and nicollet towers is here on the lower
Right-hand side nicollet mall is a restricted access a pedestrian in taxi cab and bus way so no other traffic is allowed on those on that street so and there’s a light rail station right the end of it now what we found when we went there was that we had several people in
That building that used to light rail on a daily basis but those people and those are two women there were 85 or 80 plus one is 85 + that is it on a daily or nearly daily basis and syphilis is a great example know why are they doing
That by the way for those of you that aren’t familiar with downtown Minneapolis the convention centers up here on the right you see the back of all being on the left in this part of downtown has opera houses a large church here there’s shops restaurants and businesses right along this pathway so
Here’s on the ground photos in the top left corner is Nicola towers itself you see one of the buses right there on the below that you see a gentleman riding his bicycle at a quiet time on the street and he’s very easily using that roadway to do that in the bottom right
Hand corner you can see you can sort of see the cafes and the benches and what not on the left side of that picture I see a couple of buses and you see some of the people the activity going on there and in the upper right hand corner
You’ll see a farmer’s market that pictures actually taken just a few exigo and you can see that some of those activities that are in that area and so what we found was that through this design of having something I thousand housing network for older adults here so that low-income older adults were able
To participate and take advantage of all of those things that are along nicollet mall but also that design there’s places to sit there’s places to stop there live sidewalks there’s low traffic all of those things allow people to get to the transit on a regular basis so it was one
Of the most successful places that visited and and i recommend of that planners take a look at it as a good example so what were our general conclusions here basically this chart tells us that those areas on the left have minimal benefits from locating housing near transit if you an
Individual with significant physical limitations and the system hasn’t addressed those two limitations you can’t wait for transit very long that’s a problem those who can’t they’ll go speak English and don’t have signs in their language or those who can understand the complicated finance within the system they have a problem
Using transit and they don’t get full benefit in economically struggling community we don’t have shopping services near to your homes you don’t benefit and poor transit service including the farmers who will stop poor loot planning unreliable service inaccessible stop stations high crime levels all those things will keep people
Inside as well I’m doing this call from Miami right now and when we came here for our study we and this was also in 2009 we found out that at that point if you recall gap a large complexes that we looked at their had just had that best
Service cut off so those folks and they’re at on top of that their community that was in a higher area so they were gated in and didn’t really have good pedestrian access to begin with so I felt that those first were pretty much trapped in that community from my observer standpoint
Because of the other poor bus service that existed amalia complain that even when they did have buses come by that buses would pass them by and it’s 90 degrees right now here and i can imagine on a summer day if you’re an older adult waiting for a bus that takes an hour to
Get there you might not want to try it too often if the buses aren’t coming on a regular basis now who benefits well well in those areas where individuals are open to transit there any cognitive or physical impairments or addressed signage is clear in whatever language is
It needs to be and easy to understand those address all those individual limitations and well plan safe healthy communities and walkable neighborhoods with resources nearby and basically good transit systems those are areas where people benefit from those locations so on the housing side for us it’s not only
A matter of making sure that housing works for people’s physical needs it’s a matter of making that housing is affordable for people at all levels of income but finally it’s making sure the housing are in locations that work for people those are kind of the three pegs of what’s important from the housing
Standpoint now earlier gianna mentioned a couple of reports you’ve seen a few that I’ve mentioned here as well I want to encourage all of you to head to our new website it’s at eight your peanut oil / PPI / the desk arm you can see it on your screen and there’s a little
Screenshot there the video that we can show you is one of those four boxes the top we’ve got all of our publications here we’ve got policy especially and some other resources there as well so it’s a great resource for all of you you can find things like state housing profiles our multiple generational
Housing fact sheet Jan’s Complete Streets report our aging place report with examples of states across the country all of those things are at that site so please go ahead and take a look but finally aside from the Public Policy Institute ARP is a huge organization and so we have a
Range of other programs I only have a couple of minutes left so I’m going to talk about one of those and one of the ties to our policy work here and that’s our aides firmly communities program that AARP has become an affiliate of the wh 0 a global program to create age
Friendly cities and communities our active in a few states across the country and encouraging communities to become age friendly now the network started with just major cities internationally but now it’s at a level that communities counties can apply communities of any size and they have to make a commitment to be a community
That’s going to be a pair of themselves from an aging population so you have a Complete Streets policies to have visit ability or in your housing you have work on some of these other areas of toxic spill here you’ll see that outdoor spaces and buildings are in there as
Well social participation is in there is there a way for older girls to be included into of the civic life and the community health services etc you know there are some cities that have done this new york city portland oregon philadelphia in georgia we’ve just had a
Macon i believe as one of those camisa just come on recently so it’s some big city some smaller places but when we’re couraging is for folks on all levels to think about of making the community work for older adults in each of these of each of these of w total means here
Which go wider than housing transportation land use and really include all of the areas that impact lies one of those cities that we think did a good job is New York City they have 59 different initiatives from senior hours of the pool to creating safe places to sit everywhere throughout
The city taxi vouchers for though who would otherwise be eligible for paratransit services those who have physical disabilities and need to get around emergency alert system for missing older adults if they had a range of things that are useful and good example I think for other communities
Right here you can see how to join the network there’s no fee a letter from a municipal leader kicks off the process at that joining stage is just a commitment to work on these issues and to reach out to older adults within the community figure out what the issues are
And then to work on them with 3 24 months after joining the network you create an advisory committee you develop and post your action plan on how to address these issues and and then there’s a valuation period after that and then for the next three years you
Implement that action plan and so it’s so all together it’s a way to perhaps organize some of those efforts to make your community work better for older adults now I believe you have one other poll question can we pull that up now yeah great so this poll question we
Wanted to look at if any of those things you do to today are things that your community is working on whether to Universal Design Complete Streets human services transportation transit development or others so please go ahead and fill that out we’ll think about a minute or so to let you do that
It’s a great i’m saying that things come in here and i’m saying that we have a good number of you that have others and i’m curious we’ll put our contact information at the end i’m curious for those of you can send me some examples of of what other what’s in that other
Category I’d love to see it I want me go ahead and close that up and it’s been about a minute okay and we have what twelve percent of you have universal design 61 percent have Complete Streets policies forty-nine percent human services transportation coordination policies again 49-percent Tod and thirteen percent are in that
Other category so I expect to hear from thirteen percent of you later but it’s great to see that so many of you are working on in these areas and I’m hoping that you have people of all ages of included into your design process consult consulting about what the needs
Are and and that you’re in products work for people of all ages okay so finally we’re ready for questions about contact informations here you’ve got our email addresses you can also find me on Twitter Facebook a doctor urban policy and at you can i have a blog dr. boo
Policy blogspot com as well I blog about these urban issues generally also there’s our AARP Public Policy Institute website again our general email address and the AARP Foundation housing email address the people in the AARP foundation work on housing issues as well they’re developing some great
Programs so i encourage you to go look at their website and see what they’re doing as well so with that we’re going to open up for questions i see that some of you have been submitting questions we go along but those of you that haven’t done so please go ahead and write your
Questions in the chat box and if you run out of time feel free to send questions that I Twitter or one of the other avenues after the fact and we’ll try to get to you so Jana have you been reading some of the questions you see something
We want to answer yeah let me start with two questions for you Rodney and these are focused on universal design visit ability discussion and I’m going to going to ask both of these questions at once the first is what proportion I’m sorry does the international building code have
Elements that can be adopted locally that make homes compliant with universal design I think you cover that but just to be sure answer that question followed by the local Home Builders Association is resistant resisting mandated requirements often they mention additional cost to comply with the code does the visit ability design standards
Add additional cost to projects those are two great questions on on universal design issues generally I wouldn’t start with the the second one first that as I mentioned you know the home there’s many members of the National Association of Homebuilders some when we get the issues
Some not as much and in the end I think of one of the big problems that we see is that although are they argue that the cost is it isn’t very justify or be the cost of high and the worry about whether there’s enough demand to deal with the
Cost and and I think we can help with both of those issues from the side one well first is that what we’re asking for our things that don’t require a great deal of cost there are some studies out there on an additional cost of visit ability features that depending on the
Size of and the size of the structure and the foundation or no foundation in some cases we’re talking a few hook of dollars the folks at SUNY Buffalo will have a great piece on this and I can’t call the name of it right now but the
Baby will put that later and let me put the presentation out but the costs are not really high for these issues that’s one of the things that we’ve talked about and that’s why if you use the the ICC ANSI standards to do this now builders are have a large role of those
Code councils and how those games are developed so the things that are in the in that code don’t have a big issue now the international building code is slightly different it isn’t something that we’ve looked at specifically so all it I believe though it does have elements that that could be adopted in
This format but those of you that have adopted the international building code standards they do not have say a fully designed laid out a way to say if if you’ve done this one section or implemented that you have universal design it’s not as clear-cut the second
Question was it so that was both sides of Russian yeah and that’s the next question I’ll take a stab out initially and then Rodney you can join in but the question is are there any differences in needs for housing and transportation for boomers or I’m going to expand that to
Older than boomers in mid-sized cities versus larger cities in rural in small-town areas any unique challenges in mid-sized cities such as Orlando Grand Rapids Michigan Flagstaff Arizona etc so let me just start off and really putting on my lens of the transportation planner here I think the the various
Mobility challenges that people face as a result of aging as a result of disability etc they don’t necessarily vary based on where one chooses to live whether that’s a large urban area or a small midsize city versus a rural area suburb etc however the range of transportation options that exist in
These locations of course does vary and the types of transportation options that can be provided at an affordable price and it can vary as well so for instance obviously older adults living in larger cities have access to better public transportation at least more service exists now there can be barriers as
Rodney pointed out in his presentation to accessing that service even where it exists so those types of considerations need to be made mid-sized cities of course you’re balancing lower density housing and perhaps a different scale of mixed-use development which can limit the transit choices that can be put out
On the street although we’re seeing many sighs cities that are putting light rail service into effect and part of the increase in public transportation use that we’ve seen in the United States over the past decade I think we’ve seen that a lot of that is coming from those
Mid-sized cities that they are getting rail systems and they’re improving their bus systems and so people are taking better advantage of that but if we start looking at rural areas and more of the outline suburban areas that aren’t well served by public transportation there is a different set of solutions that may
Make more sense it goes back to volunteer driver programs and and again that those can be challenging to find enough drivers as gas prices rise we know that finding volunteer drivers can become increasingly challenging I think in all of the cases some of what I’m looking at right now in providing it
Transportation especially specialized transportation is really the need whether you’re in an urban area or a rural area or somewhere in between for really focusing in on that coordinated services side and forming those relationships in order to go beyond just kind of talking to the regular people we
As planners may talk talk with and really extending that network in order to see what other resources can we bring to the table so for instance on I was in South Dakota this summer on a site visit and looking at rural public transportation services and one of the really interesting things that’s
Happening in the rural areas surrounding Sioux Falls is that their rural public transit provider is connecting with the hospitals with the human services providers to schedule transit service from a rural part of the state to Sioux Falls certain days of the week offering a discounted rate price for that trip in
Working with in haas what are called they could be coordinators or mobility managers or nurse practitioners but people who are looking out for the patient for their whole treatment program say if there are cancer patient or something and scheduling appointments to coincide with people coming from out of town with that
Bus service so it’s really extending those networks out to the private sector to define the other other means there’s also innovations where the funding sources from the federal government can be much better tied together South Dakota not only requires is it part of its coordinated Human Services public transportation planning process that
Funding under the FTA Federal Transit Administration programs be a part of this coordinated plan but they require that the funding that’s coming through there the older Americans Act the title 3 b funding often that goes to the Area Agency on Aging also come through the Department of Transportation so it can
Be coupled with the FTA money and put out there into communities the result is that where once you had a human service agency that was able to get seniors to the Senior Center or adult day care center but no providing no other service they’ve been able to put a public
Transit provider that’s serving the entire community pulling various pots of FTA funding getting the human services transportation funding so now those seniors can not only get to the senior centers but they can get to any other location in this small town and in that example I’m giving is a wall South
Dakota not a large community whatsoever so these are some innovations and something that we really want to see more of on the human services transportation side so Rodney that was kind of a long-winded answer do you want to add from the hell inside yeah but I
Think you covered you in the in the beginning I think you covered a lot of the issues for housing so I’ll just add another dynamic for me often the difference on that excite isn’t so much between large cities and medium-sized cities but the region or location in the
City and the economic condition of the city that’s something to think about as well so if you’re in you know a Rust Belt city let’s say you know Flint Michigan or Detroit or type of place where you’ve got a lot of people that have young people that have left the
Community and large numbers of vacancies in older adults being the dominant people that are left in a particular neighborhood we’ve got huge isolation issues there that’s one thing out one of the things I’m largely concerned about that if you’re on a city block that you’ve been on for 30 or 40 years and
All of a sudden you’re one of three people on that block 20 homes you’re not only costing the city a lot of services and some things are actually trying to take steps to address that but you’re also just more isolated socially so some of those social effects and impacts them
From that and fear of crime and all the like that can happen and in better off cities you see a little less of that that there’s also tends to be more money to actually use for some of these housing programs so we’ve got to be a little more inventive when there’s not
As much money to be spent in so you see a lot of the cities without a lot of financial stability doing some of these policies that are lowered no cost I went through some of that list early on the housing accessibility side and the universal design section but the ones
That have no cost are the ones that I feel the most I think too of communities that have have lower budget so i wouldn’ta sara lee always compare yourself to cities of equal size but sometimes you need to compare yourself the cities with the same similar conditions to what you have okay I’m
Moving on another question this is following up on an earlier question very related but what are the most active strategies options for improving transportation for seniors in a sprawling medium-sized urban area and um the questioner suggests is it taxi vouchers circulating vans other innovations and I think there are a
Number of things if you’re setting the public transit system aside well before I do that the let’s assume there is some form of fixed route public transportation in the community and it may not run frequently but one thing that some few communities have tried including a prince william county in
Virginia is a flex type of system where the bus is scheduled as a fixed route service but with enough padded time in the schedule that if someone calls in advance to say can you come and pick me up in front of my house the bus can veer
Off its route and do that and that can be very helpful to older adults in the community it’s not a service that’s all that possible and an urban area on an urban fixed route system just because of traffic and the need to keep to schedule and the more frequent service etc but it
Is something on those farther out areas can be very effective also other types of transit broadly defined services that may be providers that are not fixed route providers but more para transit providers also you know broadly defined they may be the area Agencies on Aging or other human service agencies if you
Can get the technology in order for a centralized scheduling and dispatch service than those buses those vehicles that go out can reach out and pick up passengers for various human service agencies and we’re seeing more and more of this there there are course taxi voucher programs these are very
Effective for outline areas that can be income based or you know other an age-based type of criteria and can provide a service very personalized well at least the private vehicle type of service for older adults that assumes there are taxi companies in the community that can provide that
Service and then there’s some some good innovations out there volunteer driver programs pace program Riverside California they have funding for drivers to take older adults around but the older adults get to choose who they want to drive them around so they basically recruit their own drivers whether it be
Family or friends but there’s some reimbursement possibility there there’s a lot of innovations going on in the Portland area ride connection where they work with church groups they work with the trimet which is the metro transit provider to teach older adults how to use the public transit system they have
A number of agreements with other human service agencies a volunteer driver program so there’s there’s quite a few I don’t know that there’s any one thing that works better than others it’s often really looking at the resources in your community and thinking out of the box
And seeing what can be done it can also be questioned well I’ll take up and that was one where I was asked we have you seen increases in the use of echo housing and mother-daughter apartments to accommodate older parents in existing housing how receptive our communities to modifying their zoning to accommodate
Such housing and that’s a good question enough of you are familiar echo housing was a particular program the elder cottage Housing Opportunity Program started in the 80s and it was a small house for an older adult that was placed on a mere are the home of a host family
Usually probably a relative or close friend there were some I think some administrative issues of some other problems that kept that from being successful as it could have been and in part zoning I was a big issue in making this question wider all those of you may be familiar with accessory dwelling
Units and we have a a good model just we’re doing in laws available on our website as well the zoning is often the biggest thing that precludes these unit from being built where they’re needed and could be used that the whole concept of building by unit for an older adult
Or anyone else on a property is sometimes met with some fears by mini’s community whether it’s traffic lowering property values etc other many excuses that are justifications that are used and in most cases I think those could be mitigated by communities that have the
Will to do so but now in terms of the households themselves we tried to look long and hard for golden girl households and some of these other things that we hear trends about and we just have not seen the evidence so far that those things are going in great numbers those
Kind of specialized households at least not to the point where of showing up in the studies that we’ve looked at yet but I think looking forward will we see that the baby boom generation is coming that in great numbers we’ll start to see all of those options I mean all the housing
Options under the rainbow I think will start to become more popular by the way answer another question quickly i see here that about what we mean by baby boomers all of us will now use it I and I think this goes for Jane as well correct me if I’m wrong using the
General definition of people at our border between 19 45 and 64 I think all the studies we looked at use that definition all right Jana do you have one or you always take another one I’m haven’t okay let’s look here I’m seeing the question what proportion of the disability rates
Are due to obesity and there is another related question later that I can’t see right now I I don’t know the answer to that I have heard of researchers who are suggesting that as the given that the nation’s weight that that the the declining trends in disability rates may
Be reversed but I don’t know who to point in that too in that direction for research Rodney do you have more information no I thought it’s a mean that’s out there actually that we haven’t touched on ourselves and we’re looking for others to really help and get those research areas covered I
Really right now say for that last poll I see now that some of you are mentioning that in the last poll you entered other because they wouldn’t have a none of the above option in that last poll also maybe that explains some of the the high numbers we had four other
In that last poll and and it’s okay if your community is not doing any of those things now but hopefully you go back to your communities and start to implement some of these things as we go and I should mention that you know we focused on more the traditional planning areas
That can address the 18 demographic from land use transportation housings type of solutions and try to draw some connections to things that planners are already doing in many communities but may not be doing those through the lens of Aging and so I think you can increase if you already are implementing Complete
Streets or transit oriented development you can increase your effectiveness by taking some of this information and filtering it through the lens of aging to say what do I need to know for the next generation which is going to be an old overpopulation so things you know with designing the street network it’s still
A fairly rare my encounters with communities that are working on Complete Streets for them to have really explicitly recognized that older adults are the most vulnerable users in the community children are up there but in terms of fatality statistics they they are not as affected as the oldest in the
In the community and so we do need to keep this population group in mind as part of any planning effort something else I was going to mention with that oh and outside of the traditional planning realms of land use housing transportation as Rodney pointed out through the age friendly communities
Program there are these other seven domains or several domains and the there’s a number of things the new york academy of medicine i believe it is thats teamed up with the age friendly communities program is really spelling out a number of these other areas that
Can be worked on so again as planners i think we are in a great position because we tend to be generalists we tend to be big picture people and we understand the public process and we can convene and facilitate and and moderate these types of discussions and so I think planners
Can take the lead but it’s really getting outside the formal planning discipline in reaching out to new networks I think every local government planner should be in contact with the director of the Area Agency on Aging locally they we as planners need to know what are the issues older adults are
Facing in the community and start brainstorming how can we begin to affect those through the work that we do and there’s many other types of organizations out there like that it’s a great answer and I see we’re getting close to the end here we may be time for
A couple more a couple things I wanted to do first I don’t I want make sure to thank those of you from the National Capital Area chapter and the plan black community division that have signed on I’m on the board of the playing black community vision and I
Know we’re happy to co-sponsor the series so I wanted to make sure to mention that there was a question here about the weather returns in downtown living and senior population or intergenerational communities and that reminds me of one thing that I wanted to make sure to kind of stay here towards
The end and that’s that again both Afghanistan sweet as planners we’re in a unique position I think to prepare and look at communities in the long term and and also though to help deal with issues as they are now and as I look at the housing issues for older dose for
Boomers and beyond I think two things one that we have to the door a short-term problem that we’ve got lots of older adults now in homes and communities that don’t meet their needs and right now is the time to find these solutions that we can use to help
Mitigate that that whether it’s whether it’s a home that’s in a bad location so maybe there’s some transportation solution or some a way to bring in services or what have you to do that that’s something the short-term solution from the ground level you may be familiar with the Beacon Hill Village
Example these villages are sprouting up all over the country and these are neighborhood groups of people that are coming together and creating services within their community to help make up for the fact that their community doesn’t have what they need or doesn’t provide them with what they they have
Now long term we’ve talked about this a lot today but I think we have the role of putting in front of the people that need to hear it the things that need to any time to happen so when we’re talking about changing the way housing is built
You know that’s a two to three decade at least process to we change the way you know homes are or community design issues or what have you and if you think back to janice lies about the population growth well we’re talking within the next couple of
Decades so we’re going to have that huge explosion so i can’t over express the urgency that we would need in in taking this issue seriously and and I hope and I’m glad that the session was so popular at the APA conference and we’ve adapted it and embodied it a little bit for all
Of you folks today and I hope that we don’t just have those people that have focused on older adult issues here but I hope that we have a wide range of folks it and you’re going to take some of these issues back to their communities and work with them because we need both
Short and long term solutions now to those persons question and low in a long term with are things like cohousing that we’ve looked at intergenerational households and the like those things are our small niche and even downtown living there for older those they’re relatively small now but they’re growing and I
Believe that obviously when we when the Boeing we have the great number of older those being 65 plus and that kind of range you’ll see more and more of them taking all these options there’s a wide range of things that may always be a niche but that pool of people is so
Large they were going to see a lot more people doing it so and it but also to underscore that you know one of the main trends that we want people to keep in mind is that the great majority of older adults tell us that they want to age in
Their current homes and communities so well we do see some boomers choosing to move back to the city if they’ve been living in the suburbs it is still more of that niche and like Ronnie said it’s a growing population so there may be more people to purchase homes in that
Area but there’s other trends that have to be considered as well there’s the you know the housing crisis trend and the the net worth decline and how much can people afford and and for the most part people are going to age where they are right today
And out the last thing I’ll say is that that’s what makes it so important that we have a good range of options for people because people once they end up in a place and they’re settled in their midlife they like to be there and so my vision for the country is that we
Provide enough options at a wave wide range of price points that everyone can find what they need within their community within their community absolutely and keep in mind also that people’s social networks and our support networks are established over you know decades and you don’t want to disrupt
Those networks especially as people move into older age when they need to fall back on those network so it really is important to be thinking of how can we make the existing community work better so people can stay where they are not necessarily in their same homes even
Though that’s what people tell us they want to do but at least close to those social networks and support that works that they’ve developed so I think we’re out of time you know I’ll be on Twitter urban policy for a while if folks want to send questions after we’re done here
But that I wanted for one thank everyone that’s come out today and thanks thanks again to the folks at APA Virginia and APA and also it’s behind the series glad to be here today thank you okay thank you for the great presentation John and Rodney and I want to thank everyone for
Attending today’s webcast I just want to go through a few reminders first off to all your CM credits for attending today’s webcast please go to a planning that works lyceum selected a state September 28th and then select today’s webcast this webcast is available for 1.5 cm credit also we are recording
Today’s session so you’ll be able to find recording of this webcast along with a six slide per page PDF at Utah ap.org webcast archive and also on YouTube this concludes today’s session and I want to thank everyone again for attending
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