Title: شهرهای خط مقدم #۱۷ | جریان سازی تفکر انعطاف پذیری در بسته های بازیابی

هفدهمین نسخه از سری شهرهای خط مقدم دومین وبینار از دو وبینار بود که تحت بسته اقدام شهرهای تاب آور (ReCAP 21) طراحی و اجرا شد تا دانش و تجربیات خود را در مورد تأثیرات کووید-۱۹ بر شهرها و رویکردها و اقدامات انجام شده در راستای به اشتراک بگذارد. یک بازیابی انعطاف پذیر این بخشی از یک رویکرد هدفمند برای تبادل دانش و انتشار جهانی بهترین شیوه ها، تجربیات و درس های آموخته شده برای تسهیل یادگیری همتا به همتا در داخل و خارج از پروژه است. سخنرانان: روبن ورچان، مسئول ارشد سیاست توسعه پایدار شهری در وزارت همکاری اقتصادی و توسعه فدرال آلمان (BMZ). دانا عمران، مدیر جهانی و استراتژی عملیات آفریقا در شبکه شهرهای تاب آور. جافث هابینشوتی، مدیر ارشد تاب آوری در شهر کیگالی سومیا چاتورودولا، معاون مدیر ICLEI جنوب آسیا، جولیان باسکین، مشاور اصلی شهری در دبیرخانه اتحاد شهرها #مقاومت شهری #آفریقا #آسیای جنوب شرقی #بازیابی مقاوم اطلاعات بیشتر: https://resilientcitiesnetwork.org/urban_resiliences/speaker-series-17/

قسمتي از متن فيلم: I’m hello everyone welcome to cities on the front line today again as a continuation of last week we will talk about mainstreaming resilience into recovery packages my name is francis guskier i’m a practice manager for the urban development and disaster risk management practice of the world bank in east asia and i’m

By the co-host of this speaker series with with lauren in general who will be represented by katrin today from drcn she will introduce the topic and to this guest speaker in a minute but before we start let me remind everyone of the intention of the speaker series and the ground

Rule for the conversation and the proposed uh the purpose of the this webinar is to have an open and honest learning conversation and as a result the calls are not on the record and we ask that you not attribute any comments unless you have the person’s express

Permission to do so and we will help you in obtaining this permission if needed we have about 250 people registered for the call today so to facilitate the discussion we ask that you use the q a or chat function to post question or make any comments please note that the recording of this

Session as well as the powerpoint presentations will be posted online next monday catherine over to you thank you so much francis um welcome everybody to today’s um speaker series it’s a huge honor for me to to be with francis here today i i really hope that you are not missing lauren too much

Um i’m i’m glad um to facilitate a session mainly because i have all my amazing colleagues from the recap 21 program today in this session um so as francis introduced this is the second session we are doing on resilient recovery and we will have in total um five um people

Who are sharing our their experiences with us today so um we have another co-host from the german federal ministry of economic development mr um ruben welchan um is is the senior policy offer officer for sustainable urban development at the german federal ministry of economic cooperation and development and he is

Working in the sustainable urban development division for environmental policy urban development mobility circular economy and marine conservation prior to his position he was a senior policy officer in the division of regional development banks and efat and in this capacity he was responsible for the work with the inter-american development bank and the

Caribbean development bank he will then hand over to my colleague dana omran she is the global director operations and strategy and also our regional director for africa and she leads the team from our city side on the recap project then we will hear from one of our program cities

We have with us today jacket happynucci um who’s our chief brazilian officer in kigali and then i’m followed by my dear colleague sumiya and i’m really sorry if the last name is not pronounced um correctly chat will be doula who is the deputy director of italy south asia um whom we have been

Implementing this program with uh with a focus on bangladesh and then at last um we will have our um dear colleague from the city’s alliance secretariat mr julian baskin um who is the third partner in the consortium who is implementing greek club 21 together in one mauritania and bangladesh

Francis and back to you i think that we’re going to move directly to reuben for his introduction and then to the various speakers over to you reuben thank you francis and thank you katrin for the introduction it is certainly my pleasure to co-host today’s event on behalf of bmz the

German federal ministry for economic cooperation and development and a special welcome goes to our panelists uh donna omran yappert happened shooti sumiya charter medulla and julian baskin thank you so much for being here with us today as has been already mentioned twice this is the second event the last event in

The series co-designing a resilient recovery in cities served as a first introduction to green recovery in more general terms today we will pick up the threat and look deeper into two country examples we will see how resilient thinking can be mainstreamed in recovery packages using the example of the brazilian cities action package

Or short recap 21 recap 21 is currently being implemented in five cities in three countries these five cities serve as a pilot to learn which approaches are suitable to foster green recovery and resilience in urban planning rica 21 prioritizes projects with a focus on resilience and green recovery sets framework conditions for green

Recovery measures initiates implementation of specific urban infrastructure projects and helps linking those projects to finance through equalized transformative action programs pipeline the knowledge gained is being fed back into international dialogues and exchange formats on resilience and green recovery as exemplified by our webinar today we bmz have commissioned the recap 21

Program at the beginning of this year and are very eagerly following up on its progress and development from the very beginning of the proposal process it was important for us to utilize a broad concept of resilience that includes not only economic aspects of green recovery but also social aspects such as social cohesion

This is why we are very happy that the city’s alliance iklai and brazilian cities agreed to partner with us on the implementation of recap 21. together with the jizei sector program cities we are very fortunate to bring together these different partners with their unique approaches we are glad to see that this cooperation

Is as fruitful and that the different actors complement each other as we had hoped as cities around the world are currently fighting the pandemic and are confronted with multiple challenges there is need for an exchange on good practices and experiences on green recovery the cities at the frontline series is

Therefore a much needed exchange format and we are glad about the opportunity to share experiences made in the course of recap 21 with you today the special role we saw in the partnership with brazilian cities 21 is their focus on harmonizing social economic and green aspects with recovery and resilience

We are very much looking forward to discussing amongst other topics this interconnectedness today therefore i wish us all a very interesting and unpleasant event back to you catherine and francis thank you thank you i think without further ado we will go straight to donna and i think you will

You will frame the to this conversation and bring rcn’s uh perspective on the topic so over to you can you just confirm that you’re able to see my screen okay wonderful so i’ll be speaking today uh about some of the work we’ve been doing uh to develop a resilient recovery

Framework i think over the past year and a half we’ve we’ve seen the word resilience and thrown into many different contexts including this recovery conversations and one of the things that we set out to do at the onset of this pandemic was to really figure out what does a

Resilient recovery mean what does it mean in the context of all of these different other recovery frameworks that exist out there uh and we’ve spent a lot of time over the last 18 or 20 months really talking to the cities in our network to understand how they are viewing

Resilience and resilience recovery in their act in their recovery packages and one of the things that has emerged from these conversations with our member cities is that you know cities as they were planning and thinking about the pivot from you know immediate response to recovery uh we’re really thinking about three main

You know themes as they were planning for long-term recovery one was how to make their cities more inclusive more equitable as a result of this pandemic how they could use the pandemic the shock event of the pandemic to create an opportunity to create a more just and equitable society another was how to

How to incorporate climate action into the recovery packages and the third was around local economic development of course the the pandemic and the ensuing lockdowns had significant financial and economic impacts on cities around the world and so cities started were really struggling to think about as they were

Planning for recovery how to revitalize and restart their economies so building on these discussions and and multiple surveys that we ran with our cities we started to think about what are the elements what are the key elements that would really constitute a resilient recovery and we started to develop a

Rough framework to help cities think about how they mainstream resilience into the recovery planning we also looked at other recovery frameworks we started thinking about what does a traditional recovery framework look like which really focuses on the economic aspects or adjust recovery or green recovery and through looking at this and reviewing

These different frameworks we started to to center our thinking around four main themes and that was became the basis of this recovery resident recovery framework that we developed and so we’ve put together four main dimensions that we think are imperative for cities to think about as they work on mainstreaming resilience into

Their long-term recovery planning and those those four dimensions are when i’ll go into deep in in depth what each of these dimensions means in a second but just to put it all in one place you know in in we’re looking at recovery packages that allows you know

That are risk aware that are systems enabled that are equity centered and climate focused the other thing we did is we looked at our existing frameworks that we use when helping cities think about the resilience as a whole and one of them is the city resilience framework which we’ve talked

About many times throughout the course of the cities on the frontline series and cities in our network have used this framework to design their own resilience strategies and action plans and so by overlaying our this new recovery framework on the city’s resilience framework we’re able to start to see

Uh some really useful um frameworks that emerge for cities to to help ground cities in in planning their long-term recovery so the first opportunity or the first dimension that this recovery framework really focuses on is equity and what does it mean to be equitable and what

Does it mean to center your planning on equity it means thinking about empowering multiple stakeholders and it means thinking about how do you involve in vulnerable communities disenfranchised communities into your planning efforts and understanding fundamentally who who the vulnerable in your communities are in your cities are and

In not only just understanding who they are and understanding what those metrics are but also in co involving them and building relationships with different disadvantaged communities in the planning process and something that emerged as as as very important as a city started to respond uh to the crisis one example and this is

Not from one of our member cities although many of our member cities have great examples of how they started to involve incorporated equity into the recovery planning it was in in is in dhaka in bangladesh where one of the biggest impacts of the crisis was the the lockdown and food

Insecurity that was result that that resulted as and so one of the things that the city did was work with streets informal street vendors to find what open spaces where they would safely be able to sell their goods and also uh where where they were in for people living in

Informal settlements and different communities could access food in a safe and healthy environment that work involved working with a constituency that is usually overlooked this informal street vendors and is really an example of how an equitable approach to recovery planning could work in cities the second dimension that we looked at

As we’ve developed this recovery framework is becoming risk aware what this means is understanding that covid is happening in in the context of many other shocks and stresses and that there as cities were fighting the pandemic they’re actually fighting a range of shocks and stresses that already existed in their cities and

Coveted helped to exacerbate a lot of uh shocks and stresses in cities and and so taking an approach that is risk aware means understanding what are mult what are the multiple and overlapping risks that exist in the study understanding how you could leverage data and technology to better understand your risk

Um an example of this is a one from one of our member cities and one of the ways that one of our member cities has reacted or responded and incorporated this more risk aware approach is cape town which developed upon something they called a vulnerability viewer to basically overlay

Uh dozens of different data sets across the to help them understand the vulnerability of different neighborhoods different sections of the city different communities in the city and they’ve used that vulnerability uh viewer multiple times throughout the pandemic as different risks and crises have emerged um

Uh to to better respond as a city for example in their when there were recent protests throughout south africa the vulnerability viewer became a very handy tool for the city to think about their their food systems and existing food stocks across the city so they were able

To look at where they were vulnerable and where their food system may be exposed to different points of vulnerability the third dimension that we look at is being systems enabled and what this means is really thinking about different urban systems and how they connect um ultimately you know one of the main

Principles of resilience is taking a more integrated approach to planning and really taking this system-based approach and so thinking about how do you think about urban your urban infrastructure how do you enhance your urban infrastructure in a way that considers multiple systems that helps to foster job creation opportunities

While also addressing equity and climate needs one of the greatest examples of this of course is is all of these open streets uh and uh programs that we’ve seen emerge from around the world whether it’s new york uh milan which we were hearing about in last week’s session or even in kigali

Where the city is now developing and about to launch at the end of this month a car-free zone that will re-imagine public spaces in the city to allow for local businesses to thrive multiple green areas for city residents to convene safely provide other you know benefits such as

Access to water and toilet facilities etc and so this is an opportunity this crisis and um planning for the recovery allowed cities to really think about how they can build uh interve how could they can design interventions that really look at the intersection and and of different urban systems

And then finally of course as big part of the discourse over over the last couple of years has been how do we ensure that this recovery is green and climate focused and one of the you know this has been obviously one of the biggest opportunities that cities around the

World have seen um and you know what does it mean for cities to build a green or plan for a green recovery it means prioritizing low emission development it means focusing on nature-based solutions to protect and enhance biodiversity and ecosystems and it also involves incorporating circularity and into urban systems to

Promote new models of production and consumption we’re seeing this again uh throughout our network again i’ll i’ll choose an example from uh from kigali because it’s one of the cities that we’re working very closely with through this recap 21 work and um one of the projects uh that that’s

Really stood out as we’ve been doing this work and partnership with with ickley is really taking uh is is a project that looks at health centers in different districts in kigali and other cities in rwanda and thinking about how to design those health centers in such a way that they include

Different energy and water features that make them a more sustainable and great green in the long term so thinking about water storage for example thinking about solar lighting on health sensors and so what this shows or what this project demonstrates is that even though the entry point was a health center you know

Responding immediately to a major health crisis there’s an opportunity to design all of these different uh green and climate features into um an intervention which will allow the city to uh which will allow each of these cities that are um launching these health centers to really have uh reap

Multiple benefits from from these interventions um i’ll stop there i’m i would like to just say before you know wrapping up is that um doing this work with with the city of kigali has been a really interesting journey and i’m very interested to hear um from japheth and shuti the chief

Resilience officer of kigali how he has used this framework and how he’s to approach uh various stakeholders in the city uh to talk about designing uh resilient recovery interventions and and i’m curious to hear from you jaclyn what what opportunities have you seen and what challenges have you seen in

Trying to you know introduce these concepts into your conversations around recovery with your uh fellow city stakeholders so uh without further ado i thank you for your attention and i pass it on to uh jacob habenshutti to give us some real life example of what this means to mainstream resilience into

Long-term recovery planning thank you yeah thank you dana for the nice presentation and the opportunity to share a few insights on how kigali has been navigating navigating the process to prioritize recovery needs and develop interventions to address them first of all i wish to mention that the city appreciated

The resilient recovery framework that donna just presented in our view it is a good tool that tries to approach challenges from different angles in addition of its strong point of guiding the elaboration of robust projects that serve different ends in order to apply the framework we first prepared a few guiding

Questions and consulted director generals of different city departments including urban planning infrastructure urban economics development social development and good governance and our discussions mainly reflected on how these authorities are thinking to leverage on their variety learnings from kovite 19 and how they think these learnings could support a resilient recovery we also brainstormed

On initiatives which are being implemented by those respective directorates as well as the potential to enhance or rethink them to ensure that they are addressing impacts of kovid by generating more to multiple solutions to different needs and different resident groups by incorporating for instance features that enhance efficiency equity and so on

We then populated uh the action inventory 2 with around 30 uh potential action and thanks to the support from rcn and other partners we were able to compare those actions check the alignment with the existing policies and local and global priorities like the sdg framework and also prioritize them additionally we reflected on

The shocks and stresses other than profit that this action trying to address we also received some trainings on different topics aiming to strengthen our capacities in terms of identifying and developing initiatives with the potential to support a resilient recovery and these trainings were attended by people from different departments of the city

So uh i would say that the exercise is going smoothly and we are learning a lot in terms of where the city is the stage of recovery where the city is we found out that the city is in its it’s still dealing with with response and in its initial recovery efforts

And we tried to see the gaps and different needs and as we move forward i would say that we have some few uh prospective action for which we we are confident and we are a few steps from turning them into bankable proposals and that we can find funding and implement in the near

Future we are also organizing a visioning workshop in a few weeks to come whereby we are hoping to have city leaders in one room get their views in a more consultative process and also gather priorities which we can put in our city recovery action plan

Uh in short i wish to thank all partners including rcn iklay cities alliance and tizad for facilitating this process and we think it’s a it came at the right moment and we see its potential and it’s we think it’s a great a great uh process to catalyze the resilience

And recovery process in kigari thank you so much for following and over to the moderator thank you uh jeff that’s very interesting and thank you also uh dana um and a reminder to all the participants to prepare your question and if possible ask them in either the chat or the q a

Section uh we’re now going to move to somia who’s based in india but actually is going to talk about her work in bangladesh uh also related to the recovery process so media i think you have some slides here they are over to you thank you so much francis uh can you

Hear me see me we can hear and see your slide thank you so uh very good uh afternoon evening even morning depending on where you’re joining from shattur vedil and i’m vertically south asia for those of you uh who do not know italy uh we are a local government’s

Association who work with city governments about 2500 plus of them uh through 24 offices across uh the world and uh in asia we’re working uh with over uh 273 local governments uh bangladesh uh several cities in bangladesh about 17 18 of them being equally member cities and a lot of work

Happening in the south asia region on the different pathways that cities are wanting to embark on and cities are wanting to integrate across these different pathways especially in the context of resilient recovery while the pandemic has impacted i think core services within the cities there is or there are also the

Development needs which are um you know at the heels so uh this is and um you know looking at the trying to take advantage of uh you know catering to the populations for these basic needs and uh trying to improve urban service delivery this is an opportunity where cities can look at

Uh these different aspects of low emissions development nature-based development looking at inclusivity looking at uh circular development so uh what italy is trying to do with the membership is integrate all these different pathways and try and come up with uh resilient recovery action plans in these cities and try and help them

Implement some of these actions based on uh the priorities of uh the cities obviously so um looking at the context in bangladesh a very typical scenario or in south asia where uh i think the largest population to be impacted was the migrant labor population and uh the

Uh folks are below the poverty line and uh in terms of access to health in terms of access to livelihood access to even food there was significant stress and there is an estimate from the world bank that nearly 15 million people additionally fell below the poverty line in bangladesh women women wore

The brunt of it because they were restricted as it is movement of women is restricted for multiple reasons both social and security uh reasons but the pandemic kind of uh you know added for the stress and uh there was no access to livelihood in bangladesh especially the government

Workers and the house health these were the groups that were significantly impacted there was a reduction in uh food consumption uh during this period of uh the pandemic almost 69 percent of households repeat uh reported a reduction in food budgets and uh one of the critical challenges uh is

Always solid waste management pandemic on a pandemic solid base management is a critical aspect that all local authorities struggle to deal with and the pandemic just you know kind of threw a wrench in the works as opposed to about 48 tons of biomedical waste that is generated

Per day before the coverage it was now 206 tons of medical waste with absolutely no systems in place to deal with this kind of medical waste even though there were certain emergency and ad hoc systems that were set up so these were the kind of challenges that

Uh the city faced what did the national government do at this point uh i think the guiding principle was the uh the national preparedness response plan where they were uh looking to address several aspects but most of them if you look at it we are looking at health aspects looking at

Communication public awareness operational research and a certain budget put together for these six priority areas but uh yeah looking at life in general looking at social systems in general this is something that uh the local government the local authorities uh were left uh to tackle uh you know left to their own

Means and measures to tackle while they were significant budget that was put across 8500 million usd plus uh in national schemes uh trying to improve livelihoods across industry service sectors uh etc the local government’s uh this this was a strong support program by the world bank where uh there was

Significant funding for uh preparation of the resilient recovery action plans and also implementation of some of these actions so these are the kind of schemes that the national and the local governments uh saw a few examples of what the city had to do and what they did as an immediate

Response at that point uh you will see that all of these are uh you know actions that had deal with the moment and so they were linked to you know the provision of oxygen cylinders we’ve seen uh dire and desperate uh situation in the south asia region we were looking at um kinder

Moon’s party uh had uh eco-friendly vehicles electric vehicles basically that they had uh procured with help from uh giz um yeah and a half ago so these were put into use uh for uh the delivery of uh medicines for the delivery of health services for the delivery of food so uh

These were some of the examples and uh the cities of narayan ganjang shahi coming to the rika project uh narayan guns is a city which is um just uh adjacent to dhaka which is the capital city of bangladesh and uh raj shahi is bordered almost a border city uh between

India and bangladesh separated by the padma rivers so both these cities narendra very important industrial city beside dhaka and raj shahi is a strategic agro based education based city so these are the two cities that the recap project is dealing with and the required project is actually taking off from a european

Commission funded program where the cities were looking at climate resilient development and this was before the pandemic so right now through the recap project it gave them an opportunity and gave them the resources and the knowledge to be able to look at uh covet recovery and climate resilient uh

Development so uh climate resilient development in the context of covet recovery and has thrown up several more priorities than were you know uh can we search previously so uh taking off from uh this project so this project kind of laid the uh background uh for uh the recap program that we were

Doing in both these cities cities looked at their climate vulnerability hotspots identified their vulnerable urban systems uh looked at which wards had uh the most number of fragile urban systems which populations were affected maximum who were the actors that needed to be brought in so this entire vulnerability assessment looking at uh

What are the priority factors from a greenhouse gas emissions uh viewpoint uh critically it is the manufacturing industry sector which you would see in narendra because it is an industrial area and uh in raj it it’s kind of across the residential and uh the commercial the manufacturing transport all of these

And waste uh contributing significantly to emissions so this was the baseline that was already there in uh these two cities uh and the project took off from there their climate action plan was ready so we are integrating uh resilient recovery actions into their climate action plan

Which uh was in a draft form and so the rika project gave an opportunity to for the cities to do that and uh there is also a significant understanding and acknowledgement that looking at vertical integration looking at national policies and how national policies and national programs need to enable city

Level action and sub-national action so district level and city level in bangladesh so there was a study that was conducted and uh identification of stakeholders and engagement with the ministry and all of these uh were results that came out of uh that study that was done by icad in bangladesh and uh the

Critical aspect is uh that while the urban development ministry does uh all the urban development plans is the planning commission which is responsible for the evolution of the budgets and so uh the sync between the two and then the linkage to the local authority so these were certain challenges and

Certain areas uh which needed to be strengthened that came out of this particular study if there needs to be a cohesive national level plan for city-led and you know district wise uh climate action uh there were several steps to be followed which was the result of that study uh the cities also undertook

With the help of this project certain environmental improvement uh measures uh such as looking at air pollution sensors so this is basically sensor-based uh air quality monitoring systems uh very relevant for nara and ganch because uh yeah the air quality is significantly impacted because of the industries there uh there

Was look at uh using uh rooftop solar pools in social infrastructure both at hospitals and and uh libraries uh within uh narayan ganch and this is the first time that the city authority has actually deployed these on their own uh ensured that there is net metering and uh

Ensured that there is power backup to the social infrastructure especially for the health sector so much more important given uh all the push for the vaccines and the storage and all of that so uh this is something that the city of narendra took up raja he was looking at open spaces

Greening guidelines uh looking at not just the guidance and the guidelines for that but also uh in terms of native species selections uh improvement of green cover and things like that this is also something uh where starting from a baseline assessment of the floral well there was also uh demonstration projects that were

Done uh in rajshahi uh it was surprisingly um not a big uh focus on looking at uh energy efficiency clean energy also in rajahi so looking at the government building the city building the city hall basically uh where an investment investment grade energy audit was conducted uh for the government building

And there are retrofits that are now being implemented uh in in raj shahi so these are some of uh the actions that are being undertaken but uh also with funding uh from bmz uh through the crisp project uh this kind of uh approach to climate resilient inclusive urban development the

Knowledge for that uh is being supported in uh the cities of syracuse also uh benefiting from this program so there is there are a lot of um there is a lot of support for uh climate resilient recovery in bangladesh the challenge that we see is the integration and mainstreaming into the city planning

Process and also into the planning process at the national level a lot of uh the city plans and the implementation of the plans the owners lies with the local government and engineering department the lgb uh at the national level and the impetus comes from there the execution happens at the local level so

That integration is critical and while all this knowledge and all these different aspects are showcased and capacities built unless we are able to mainstream all of this uh and you know look at it from also the recovery perspective and integrate those aspects of social equity while serving the

Vulnerable population etc are not just going for you know big ticket programs that give high visibility and things like that i think these are some of the challenges that uh that we face on ground that cities face on ground and something that we should find solutions to immediately

So i will just stop there and you’re happy to take questions thank you thank you samia this is quite uh got an impressive overview of the work done in all these cities i think we have our last speaker julian julian i understand you will tell us a little bit more about the

Relevance of the recap 21 program at local level uh and what you see as its main advantages so yes you hello everyone uh good morning good afternoon depending where you are you know it’s very hard to say anything negative about what’s being presented because you know it all makes

Sense and and it’s all solid good work but we have to ask ourselves the question why is it that even before covered when we were talking about land use planning plans never really got implemented and we have to we have to really start to say to ourselves what do we need to be

Doing differently to ensure that planning isn’t simply planning but becomes a really useful tool for project or program implementation and for any transformation that cities need to undertake and i think in very very broad terms you know we have to go back to the age-old question it’s a question of ownership

Number one and then the very capacity to implement now in the context of the cities in which i tend to focus which is the secondary cities in africa many of the cities we don’t even know the names of normal generally people don’t know the names or many of these cities

One has to really ask how do we go beyond planning to implementation and the very first thing is we have to make sure right from the get go that resilience planning planning for future climatic events is not seen to be a international or global agenda that has no real bearing

At the local level we really have to make real attempts to root this agenda into the very fabric of what the cities are thinking and what they are doing because right now when i look at the question and i’ll be doing considerable amount of work on this i am told regularly that

This is a an agenda that doesn’t come from us because from where we stand the number one program that we have the number one priority we have is unemployment where you have 90 percent of people working in the formal economy unemployed desperately poor it’s very hard for people to say that their

Number one priority or any priority is resilience planning so what we have to do really in terms of ownership is we need to make sure that the priorities at the local level are given central stage and then work resilience around those issues and i think dana actually did make that point

But just to reinforce the point we can’t be coming in with an agenda that doesn’t speak to the real local needs that that unemployed youth have and just to add a rider to that as well is that there is increasing anger around youth being around the future seeing the

Future as being unemployed living in slums with very little hope for the future so the planning has to be rooted in what people are thinking and what their priorities are and providing some sort of hope into the future now almost everything that we talk about can be traced back to governance nothing

Will happen without good local governance and when i talk about local governance i really just in in natural talking about the capacity to implement right now on average across african secondary cities there’s only 24 percent of the capacity needed to implement a plan now can you imagine

Any one of the big cities whether it be new york paris if you if you got rid of 75 percent of their skilled staff what would happen and this is essentially the crisis facing african cities or or facing the uncapacity cities how do you move beyond the most basic agendas

Into a more integrated agenda that talks about systemic planning talks about interconnectivity between systems when you simply don’t have the staff at the local level so if we are serious about resilience we really also have to be serious about building the capacity of local government to effectively respond

And then finally i think that we also need to start developing and and many people have and and they certainly are examples out there planning techniques that are far simpler that are try to achieve less but at least provide the most basic first steps towards creating a more resilient future

And for example uh what new york university calls land expansion planning where you try and develop a planning approach that even an incapacitated city with a bit of training can implement that approach and and that planning provides at least the protection of the most obvious natural systems identification

Of those systems and then protection of those systems at least provides for basic uh road networks that will be needed in the future and ensure that those are protected and drainage lines so that they are protected so the point being that we need to be looking at planning approaches that even the most

Incapacitated city can pick up and run with so with those comments and just a final comment you know i i was in uganda fairly recently and and the one one comment that was made to me that really struck just how devastating the impact of covet has been on within informal settlements

Is that we were talking about the return of children to schools and it turns out that most of the schools are informal and are private businesses and those private businesses have collapsed during the covered period and so there are no schools to return to um just bearing in mind because one assumes

That there’s some sort of link between the state and schools but it seems not and so the impact of covet is very serious and and and and the recovery is going to be a very difficult recovery as well sorry with those with those words thank you very much

Thank you very much with this fairly sobering conclusion as you were talking i was thinking i’m i am the one who’s supposed to ask the hard questions but you you you it’s much better than i could have yet i want to go back to some of the presentation before and

Danna in particular i really like in the way you presented the way you structured the work that you came up not just with the why but also what can be what can city do with this fairly simple list of action uh that can be done and then joseph

Show how then they implemented some of them and so me i think that those cities are are probably um i don’t know what you presented was quite impressive but i think julian you put your finger on on the big question is how do you get these things implemented and your right to saying

It’s about ownership it’s about capacity it it’s also about money right so i i’m actually i was going to turn back to reuben and put ruben on the spot is i hope reuben is still there um and in fact all the speakers if you could put back your that camera would be correct

I’m still here for instance don’t worry yeah you finance all these uh planning process very interesting very useful i think that actually in the process the capacity building component is certainly the most important but now for example joseph is coming with very interesting plan with teams that

Are excited to go and see them implemented are you guys going to finance some of these plans is there a is there a plan behind and how should cities who have engaged in this process then try to to see their their ideas their plan implemented

And don’t put me on the spot because i i’ll tell you as world bank you should talk to the minister of finance which is also very complicated but back to you reuben yeah thank you for this question and i i agree with you and what the others said uh certainly

The financial resources are one of the major issues when it comes to uh urban development right and well first to give you a direct answer uh friends to your question um our capacity as a german ministry for economic corporation development to finance uh follow-up projects is of course limited and especially when you

Look at the the scope that is needed globally i know when we were talking about a finance gap of uh i think around a billion uh us dollars annually um that is certainly beyond the scope of any uh donor country of any donor ministry and also

I don’t think it’s really in the right interest of cities too to rely on donor funding there for a long time so what we are doing as um with our german development corporation is to support cities to tap uh various sources for for obtaining um funding that is uh

First and foremost of course um mobilize own revenues um that is uh through taxation or or fees or whatever um ways there are for cities to actually generate revenues on their own and then of course we are supporting with uh fiscal decentralization uh cities to obtaining um funds from the

From the national level for the task that their past was implementing and third and that’s where you come in of course we are supporting cities on how to access international development finance and especially lately international climate finance which would be an external uh source of funding uh which also is quite promising

But um i think you probably know that better than i do what are the the challenges cities face when trying to access international development finance not only in terms of of legal requirements but also in terms of what kind of risks do cities uh pose to to a lender right i mean they

Have a different um but there’s a different risk profile compared to countries and then of course uh julian you talked about the the issue of capacity and uh that also of course goes to um handling of uh of finance handling of uh especially of loans uh something you

Have to manage so that is quite a complex task and so you see there are many many challenges and we with the german development corporation try to support cities uh in tackling all of them and finding the right mix of financial sources uh that eventually helped them implement uh ambitious climate actions

Among other things right i mean this is only one of the things that we’re doing and i just i’m just saying this because julian rightly talked about the priorities that local populations and cities have and from this point of view it’s quite understandable that let’s say resilience and climate action

Might not be on the top of the list so it is always important to um to keep that in mind and to first of all make a case for what we’re doing uh when making cities more crisis resilient is actually um contributing to solving all the other

Issues that might be higher up on the uh prioritize priority list um but think of of course uh combining our resilience efforts our climate effort with um what was with other efforts with employment efforts was um food security efforts and so on and so forth what social uh efforts i’ve cited in the

Beginning i fully agree with you that the first and the most important element is to help cities generate their own revenue in the long run that’s the only way they will they will be able to develop and that’s the only way they will have full ownership of their on the block process

Um i think catherine has a question i think there’s still time for one additional question and then maybe we will have to grab them thank you unless you want to wrap up catherine we’re close to the time limit yeah i just i would like to give the

Word for one second back to jeffy um around the capacity question in cities and and specifically also around the question of secondary cities and high-capacity cities because part of the recap program and how it was designed by purpose was that we have um cities uh in the same

Vicinity um and and sharing knowledge and i think that is one question so um jeffy um based on on the recovery um action plan which we are developing in your interaction within the program what what what is the benefit you see about building your own capacity in the

City as well as building the capacity in other cities around recovery work in working together and sharing knowledge about the tools you’re using and the approaches you selected to a resilient recovery um can you can you give us a view on that thank you so much for the question

It’s really a good question and um i agree with previous uh analysts who talked about ensuring financial autonomy to ensure sustainability of recovery efforts and also by the benefits i see in giving the city capacity is dead many of the issues the cities are facing are basically related to capacity in different areas

Be its financial capacity many cities have this budget gap every financial year we have also the issue around capacity to collect data and then take or formulate plans that are informed by the right data also the technical capacity to formulate bankable projects so we have issues of capacity in many dimensions so

Tackling the capacity issue would be would really benefit the city and this can be done by capacity building programs which are informed by needs assessments and also sharing good practice good practices and success stories for people to know or to understand for instance the benefits of not working in silos or

Mainstreaming coordination and integration between different sectors and also trying to focus uh programs on the real needs as somebody said it uh the real needs in the life of the people and taking into account the stresses exposed by convict 19 so it’s really beneficial to cities to have this autonomous in these

Different dimensions and also this network of cities can foster this learning thank you so much thank you so much jeffy for your reflections on that and as um francis has been saying i think it’s time for us to wrap up francis that okay yeah yeah over to you uh okay

Um so first of all thank you so much for for all the partners um to to being with us today thank you so much um towards robin and bmz to come in and co-host this session and um and even more so thank you so much for for making these important

Funds available allowing us in this consortium of partners to work with these amazing cities and uh helping them on their journey towards a hopefully greener and more just more equitable recovery um we are going to continue um next in the next session to talk about um the essential role of small and medium

Enterprises in a resilient recovery um the conversation is part of one of our other programs we are implementing within the network and i’m looking forward to this session and i’m really really excited if you could all um come in and listen to how the private sector has a role to

Play in a resilient recovery towards sustainable development thank you so much for being with us today and um and stay stay tuned on more to come on recap and thank you francis um for for joining us and allowing us today to present this important work we are doing thank you so much

Thank you everyone have a great day wherever you are

ID: EmBTXS5yRW8
Time: 1636390753
Date: 2021-11-08 20:29:13
Duration: 00:59:12

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