Title:در نظر گرفتن جنسیت در پروژه های ساختمانی پایدار: بحثی با مشارکت BEA

این وبینار به عنوان یک انجمن برای بحث در مورد تقاطع بین جنسیت و ساختمان های پایدار خدمت می کند. ما تحقیقات شناخته شده و همچنین شکاف های داده را مورد بحث قرار خواهیم داد، و بررسی خواهیم کرد که چگونه ملاحظات جنسیتی در فضای ساختمان ها را در جریان قرار دهیم – از جمله شتاب دهنده کارایی ساختمان (BEA) – در حال حرکت رو به جلو. ما از کارشناسان در مورد ارتباط بین کارایی ساختمان و دسترسی به خدمات انرژی خواهیم شنید و از جامعه جهانی متخصصان ساختمان های پایدار استقبال می کنیم تا در گفتگو در مورد چگونگی شفاف تر کردن پیوندها و تأثیر بیشتر بر برابری جنسیتی با محوریت کار ما به ما بپیوندند. سخنرانان: مجری: ناتالی الول، مشاور ارشد جنسیت، موسسه منابع جهانی (WRI) – ویکتوریا باروز، مدیر پیشروی خالص صفر، شورای جهانی ساختمان سبز (WGBC) – جوئل مات، کارشناس جنسیت و انرژی، اقتصاددان – کریستینا چئونگ، متخصص شهرهای سبز موسسه رشد سبز جهانی (GGGI) درباره BEA بیشتر بدانید: http://buildingefficiencyaccelerator.org/

قسمتي از متن فيلم: Good morning everyone my name is shannon hilsey and i am a member of the buildings initiative with the world resources institute and i’m really happy to welcome you all to this webinar today our topic is considering gender and sustainable building projects a discussion with the bea partnership

Most of you i think are aware of the bea partnership since we’ve centered the webinar around the experiences and questions that we have but we’re very happy to have many of you on the line who are not already members of our partnership i’m going to give a quick

Overview of who we are and then describe what we’re doing here today so the building efficiency accelerator is a public-private partnership that’s part of the energy efficiency accelerator platform of sustainable energy for all it delivers technical expertise and best practices from thought leader organizations and companies from around the world

To partner cities currently the building efficiency accelerator has 55 partner cities in 25 countries as well as a number of cities that are working as deep engagements and engagements with national governments the goal of all of these dozens of partner companies and organizations and cities working together is the same as

The global goal on on the link sector decarbonization um in order to meet our climate goals so the goal is um all buildings being zero carbon by 2050 and new buildings by 2030. so we have been working with cities since 2015 and are delighted to have this global network

And to bring you some of the voices from our partnership um and our network today to talk about gender in particular before we get into the run of show and a few technical notes i just want to say a little bit about what we’re doing here today um we have found as a

Partnership that it’s difficult frankly i think all of you would agree with this on the line it’s difficult to figure out how to mainstream consideration both of gender inclusion and gender impact into our work we find that the amount of research out there on the linkage between energy-efficient buildings and low-carbon buildings

And gender equality is pretty low that those linkages can feel tangential to make and that when we’re worried about um kilowatt hours and and you know tons of greenhouse gas emissions it can be challenging to get cities both to focus on on that goal and their own goals as well

As to be concerned about gender considerations so long story short this is something we feel like the global building sector has yet to really make progress on in the way that we need to both from a perspective of jobs and inclusion of women in the buildings and construction industry

Around the world as well as in considering the impact and the beneficiaries of our work and something that we as a partnership that spans so many regions um and has linkages with so many um of the key players in the space can open up a conversation on that can be productive so we’re

Very happy to be opening that conversation with you here today we look forward to hearing all of our your thoughts during q a so very quickly um after this i’m gonna hand off uh to victoria burroughs who will be um giving us an opening we’ll have two presentations

From joelle matt and christina chiang who we will um give a brief over bio of in a moment and then wri senior gender advisor natalie elwell will be leading us in discussion we are so lucky to have some really fantastic experts on the line here to talk with us about

Their work and their experiences and research in this intersection of gender and buildings i’m going to give a brief introduction although i’ll encourage each speaker to also introduce themselves at the beginning of their presentation victoria burrows is director of advancing net zero the pioneering world building council project to ensure that

All buildings are net zero carbon by 2050 same goal as the building efficiency accelerator we’re all working together here with a strong background in the sustainable development industry ranging from the client advisory services green building rating tool consultancy and an on-site head of sustainability for a major international contractor victoria has experienced

All perspectives of the sector and now works very closely with us leading green building councils around the world toward net zero joel matt acts as conolaire’s lead expert on energy gender equality and social inclusion she has seven years of experience in the clean energy and climate change mitigation sectors and a multi-disciplinary background

Combining social sciences economics international law and human rights and this enables you to consider many factors when analyzing energy and climate issues she has vast international experience having led work in sub-saharan africa the caribbean pacific and central asia christina chiang is a green city specialist with the global green growth institute

Supporting national and local governments in green building and green infrastructure planning prior to gggi christina managed the un women’s safe cities and public spaces program in papua new guinea and worked closely with women’s groups in the informal economy and natalie elwell our moderator today is senior gender advisor at wri where

She leads the gender and social equity initiative which aims to improve the impact and sustainability of wi programs projects and operations by enhancing our understanding of and capacity to address social disparities a really fantastic panel of speakers that we have today and i’m really excited to get started so let’s

Let’s do that i’m going to hand off to victoria so she can begin her opening there we go excellent thank you very much and um just a huge thank you for inviting us today to be a part of this incredibly important conversation for considering gender and the role of gender in

Delivering on some of our goals and ambitions for sustainable building projects um as has been mentioned already my name is victoria burrows and i am the director of a project at the world green building council called advancing net zero the world green building council is a network of

Green building councils from around 70 national countries around the world and we bring them together around key topics to advance the agenda for sustainable buildings to achieve sustainable buildings for everyone everywhere and so advancing that xero is a specific project with decarbonisation targets to ensure that the sector takes necessary climate action to

Keep us within a 1.25 degree scenario our vision for total decarbonization of the building and construction sector is that by 2050 new buildings infrastructure and renovations will have net zero embodied carbon and all buildings including existing buildings must operate at net zero operational carbon and we also have an interim date for

۲۰۳۰ so only 10 short years away that new buildings infrastructure and renovations will have at least 40 percent less in body carbon with significant upfront carbon reduction and all new buildings must be net zero operational carbon what this represents is an enormous transformational shift in the way that our sector

Designs builds operates buildings and infrastructure projects and the way that we are affecting nature well-being the use of the planet’s resources and the role of our sector to create healthy thriving and resilient communities and economies we need to completely change the way that we have been addressing and approaching these design problems for

Basically up until now and so that means that we need action from everyone from all races from all genders religions locations every country in the world needs to step up and change the way that buildings are designed and operated if we have any chance of meeting these climate action goals

We are fortunate to have incredible female leadership across more than 50 percent of the established gbc’s in the world green building council network the ceos are female and that helps us in creating a common vision they’ve helped us to secure that direction of travel for the future and to bring

The strategic solutions necessary to meet that challenge and nurture the change that is necessary and build up the skill set of the industry to deliver against this enormous challenge that we are facing however we are seeing less women represented in the disciplines that we are calling on

To implement that change we are seeing a bit more diversity in engineering for example than architecture but currently nearly half of architecture students are women which is fantastic but that then only translates to 20 of licensed architects practicing in the field similarly 13 of engineers are women which is improving we’re getting

Certainly better at gender diversity within the within the sector but only 30 percent of women who hold a bachelor’s degree in engineering still work in engineering 20 years later and women make up around 14 percent of the construction industry professionals so we really have a problem with retention we are

Increasing in numbers it’s it’s um it’s improving and that’s really promising but we really must create a space where women are the architects of their future and their career paths and are not required to choose between their professional life and their family lives in order to realize their their full

Potential and that means addressing things like gender pay gap and to encourage these innovative thinkers to stay in the sector our theory of change to achieve this vision of decarbonization is based on as i mentioned a sectoral shift towards radical new ways of engaging and implementing our building solutions

That means new collaboration models really challenging the thinking that got us here in this position today where we’ve inherited inefficient homes that are expensive to operate and contribute towards fuel poverty and so many social challenges and social issues increasing communication as i mentioned the storytelling really sort of raising

Awareness and building that capacity of the of the the um the promising stories that can happen and the solutions that are out there education around the technical solutions the technicality required to achieve net zero building should not be underestimated and so making sure that we at every entry point

Into the sector we’re ensuring that people are educated on on how to achieve these high performance buildings that we’re looking for and the innovative thinking new business models new technologies secular patterns really just challenging the way that we have been building and creating the built environment

Around us for such a long time now and then finally accelerating all of that action towards regulation um harnessing the power of our sector to deliver mainstream solutions through policy and that means that we need to prove that it can be done in practice and we need everyone to be getting behind this

Charge this sort of cool call to action and so therefore this is a time for learning not just for our industry but society as a whole about the choices we make and how they impact our future and most specifically how we interact with our buildings and our design projects so i’m really

Keen to continue this conversation within the discussion and i shall hand over to our next speaker joelle bear with me just a second here we go joel the floor is yours all right can everyone see my screen yes perfect well hi everyone it’s a pleasure for me to be here today and to

Participate in such an interesting discussion uh allow me to say a couple of words on econolair uh first and foremost to um to explain you a bit who we are and uh our main activities so accommodate is an international consulting firm with 40 years of experience in the design implementation

Evaluation and financing of clean energy solutions mainly energy efficiency and small-scale renewable energy we are based in canada but are active in at the international level in developing emergent and industrialized countries for the past five years economic has been working at the intersection of gender equality social inclusion and clean energy and

Our ultimate goal is to mainstream gender across our whole project portfolio i am leading this effort at econolair on both the business development and project management side so my work revolves around performing gender analysis of the clean energy sector establishing gender sensitive green financing mechanisms supporting government and developing gender responsive energy policies

And delivering gender awareness trainings so my presentation today aims at exposing the gender gaps in energy access with a focus on the building sector so i’m sorry because i’ll i’ll be focusing on the problem mainly but i believe that you can’t fix a problem if you can’t see a problem so

Getting a good grasp a good understanding of a problem is already part of the solution so let’s get started um this on the screen is the hypothesis uh it’s a gender neutral hypothesis that has always been used to develop and implement energy initiatives um it goes pretty much like this

Everyone has energy needs and those needs are the same for everyone those needs are fulfilled with means which are planning and measures that are non-discriminatory and this leads to a result that is a fair impact and an equal impact between men and women this hypothesis is obviously wrong and not only

Is it wrong but it’s wrong at every step of the equation and the goal of my presentation today is to explain why does this hypothesis contribute to exacerbate an equality between genders regarding energy access so let’s break it down first and foremost the energy needs so we all know

Sdg 7 by 2030 everyone should have access to affordable reliable and modern energy services and indeed energy is a universal need everyone needs energy to for their own individual and community development however energy needs differ from person to person based on different factors such as gender roles socio-economic status occupation and so on

And those energy needs will differ in in all the different areas concerning energy needs which are the household at workplace and at the community level so i’ll skim over the household uh level because i think we’ve we’ve heard a lot about it and there has been plenty of studies basically household chores

Are still not equally divided um between household members which leads to higher energy consumption by the person who’s in charge of the household chores which are usually women at the work level um there’s an interesting study a recent study by energia in developing country that found out that

Women-owned businesses are more prone to use fuel-based energy while men owned businesses are more prone to use electricity and this would be explained by the fact that women are in those countries are really more active in the agrofood sector so already we see a different need here for a different type of energy

If i’m thinking about the office buildings i could think of some different energy needs that would arise from security considerations because there’s been plenty of studies that have shown the link between the level of lighting of a location and the prevalence of harassment and gender-based violence

So think about how a dark parking lot or a dark office entrance could could impact women’s sense of comfort and security because women do have higher need for well-lit public places moving on to the community level so due to their reproductive roles which means that women are usually in charge of childbearing responsibilities

Family care and domestic work due to this role women have a higher need for community facilities such as health centers and schools and kindergarten so an enhanced energy access in those type of buildings would likely have a higher positive impacts for women so let’s move to the measures we saw how

Indeed energy needs are universal but yet are differentiated uh based on gender so let’s see how um what are the the measures to fulfill these needs and how can they be discriminatory towards women the first one is energy policy so i’ve uh through the studies i’ve read and through the assessment

I performed of energy policy framework uh what we see is that energy policies are generally gender blind which means that they fail to recognize that the roles and responsibilities of women and girls are ascribed to them and lead to different energy needs and constraints and so if they fail to

See those differentiated energy needs they also fail to address them that’s how how they are gender blind i have yet to perform a gender assessment of a building code and i think it would be a very enlightening experience to to to perform this assessment within the building sector

Moving on to the next measure financing so uh basically women are largely left aside uh the financial mechanism that could enable them to purchase energy technologies or services and this they are left aside at the individual level uh as entrepreneurs there’s a major credit gap between women-owned and men owned enterprises

And there are they are also left aside both in traditional and mobile finance because women are less likely to own a mobile phone than men so i’m moving to the third one that i think is the most interesting example within within the the topic of buildings so um interestingly enough

Technologies are also discriminate uh they discriminate in in the way that they are designed and the way that they are used and so we we did this assessment in 2019 we apply the gender perspective on air conditioners and minimum energy performance to see what would be the differentiated impact on women

And and by the way we couldn’t we didn’t have the opportunity to collect any uh any field data for this assessment so it’s mainly literature based but it was still interesting findings so the the main finding that we found about a air conditioner is the thermal discomfort and i’m pretty

Sure this will be no surprise to most of the women sitting on this webinar the question is why are our offices freezing cold during all summer and to answer that question we need to look beyond the technology itself and pay attention to the standards that define what thermal comfort is and there was

This recent study published in the nature climate change journal that exposed how the ashrae standard uses the metabolic rate of an average of an average male as a standard value in their thermal comfort model and this leads to an indoor temperature that would be as much as three degrees too cold for women

And a too cold temperature not only creates of course a physical discomfort for women but it also hampered their cognitive performance and decreased their productivity and this is because other studies have shown that compared to men women perform better at intellectual work in warmer temperatures so for the record ashrae scientists have

Rebutted this study and pointed saying their model is based on a sample a balance sample of both men and women and they say that the thermal discomfort is in fact due to clothing differences so i can’t tell you who’s right or wrong this morning but the fact remained that our offices

Are still too cold and that leads to not only energy wastage higher co2 emission but also to poor comfort and performance by most of their occupants so we saw that the needs are differentiated and are fulfilled by means that can be discriminatory so what are the results well no surprise there is a

Multi-dimensional inequality for women regarding energy regarding access to clean energy in all roles so as consumers business owners workers citizens and so on so as a conclusion i’d like to come back to this hypothesis we saw at the beginning the gender neutral hypothesis and i’d like to suggest a new

Hypothesis to lead our the development and establishment of clean energy initiatives this hypothesis is gender responsive and and goes like this so we acknowledge that there are differentiated energy needs according to gender we assess them at the micro level because needs can be differentiated based on geographic location as well and will

Differ from country to country we address those differentiated needs with gender responsive planning and measures and this would likely lead to an improved gender equality and to empowering women and this would create a virtuous circle by which women being empowered would then mean a higher clean access to clean energy through

Fostering inclusive policies and programs so well thank you for your attention and please don’t hesitate to reach out to me if you have any questions or if you want to carry on the discussion so let me hand it over to christina thank you joelle so good morning everybody um

I’m christina chung and i oh sorry hang on let me just play this one and i work with the global green growth institute um so before um working in development or within inter inter-governmental organizations i worked for several years with an engineering consultancy designing and delivering green buildings

And in the very early days of green buildings so i’m very happy here to be talking with you about mainstreaming gender into green growth focusing on how we can do that through delivery of green buildings so okay so um well both joelle and victoria have already covered um the discussions

Around gender gap so i’ve included this slide mainly to demonstrate that despite many decades or hundreds of years of feminist movements with their exit still in our society or our economy today a considerable gender gap in many different sectors so just to bring your attention to the lower

Left-hand blue circle we find that climate change disproportionately affects women and that in natural hazards or in disasters women tend to lose their life more than men do so this is due to numerous different reasons of course okay so in gggi we recognize that gender equality

Is an essential outcome that needs to go hand in hand with the pursuit of environmental sustainability yeah we recognize that women play a great role in climate change mitigation and adaptation activities and we need to engage them as an equal partner so back to the case of green buildings and

I think perhaps it has been discussed earlier and all of you here are probably engaged with the sector in one way or the other and very familiar with the work on green buildings and although there isn’t um a universal definition for green buildings and we typically approach um trying to

Improve the performance of buildings in pretty similar ways across different countries and between urban and rural areas we try to look for low embodied carbon materials or maybe more local materials we try to look at prefabrication or reduction of waste we try to look at energy efficiency so

The the coming back to first principles right we try to look at green buildings as buildings that are have lower environmental impacts than typical buildings in that context where we are assessing it right we also through through improv um through introducing green buildings we also want to enhance occupant comfort as joelle was

Discussing so we do um that we want to bring upon bring out us an environmental benefit and also a social kind of benefit through green buildings so in in that case isn’t it obvious that green buildings are already good for everybody right so um i think the short answer to the question

Is yes it is good for everybody but it may not be equally good for men and for women so so it then becomes important for us to look at how we can make things as good for women as for men if they are not already so okay and um yeah so

So as we have discussed earlier there is really not a lot of information or a lot of materials out there to to that talks about how to how to discuss gender in in green buildings or in the whole building sector and we are often just um carried away by the technicalities of

Our sector and there are so many calculations so many technical specifications to me why do we make one more um form of analysis to to this very already very complicated work and the reason is because to to ensure that we can optimize the benefits to women as we are doing for men okay

So so in in um in the transition towards screen buildings the difference um the social outcomes that we are looking at perhaps would be benefits such as creation of local jobs through energy efficiency retrofits creation of local economies and local businesses through introduction of new materials and cultivating new

Construction methods or through material reuse we we then give rise to um new production methods or new industries in the area so these come with accompanying training opportunities job opportunities and income generation opportunities as one one benefit right of green buildings so to ensure that these benefits reach both men and women

We need to consider um as joel had very quickly discussed the reproductive roles of women as different from men right women are very often involved in caregiving and also in ensuring that the house is running ensuring the meals are cooked and the house is clean and also women

Engage a lot more in community work in ensuring the surroundings are clean the playgrounds are safe so this all these work take up their time we also see women very often engaged in some form of income generation activity and more often than men women are in the informal economy they work as market

Vendors as waste pickers or they they pack cook meals for workers from home or take care of other people’s children and so very often women combine these responsibilities in the in the home and they are engaged in multiple different activities at the same time okay so in our assessment we also need

To understand the difference in the access to resources between men and women if there if the household has ownership of a form of mobility whether bicycle or a car do women and the men in the household have equal access to the vehicle do women have equal access to

Information as men in the household can they read do they have access to the internet do they have wi-fi and women are they consulted equally on decision making on financial management and and also to consider the time constraints of women from juggling all these multiple roles that they play at the same time

Okay so so when we consider the introduction of training opportunities and economic opportunities and job opportunities we need to consider whether men and women access these opportunities equally okay or or whether we disadvantage women by having trainings in a specialized institute that requires considerable travels from from the communities where they live yeah

The african development bank has developed a checklist for mainstreaming gender in the infrastructure sector it’s very general and it’s very broad but it’s a really useful um starting point to to get the the ideas moving and then from there i think um it’s helpful to to get started on

Designing how we would mainstream gender so in gggi we follow this standard method of gender mainstreaming in our projects we start off with ensuring that there is meaningful participation of men and women in designing our interventions and then we need to conduct a gender assessment to to understand what men are

Responsible for and women are responsible for in the context where we are going to operate and then also to project how our interventions are going to affect men and women so based on that assessment we we articulate um explicit gender outcomes of what we would like to achieve

For men and for women that we work with in the project so all throughout implementation we should monitor and evaluate whether we are achieving these outcomes that we have state we have planned for the project and if we are not achieving the outcomes then we need to make the necessary changes

To to come back to our initial goals okay so i’m going to talk very quickly through three projects from gggi um last year we work we were invited by the ministry of rural development in india to introduce a green building framework for the national housing program for rural housing

And these are very low cost housing so through a consultative process with public and private stakeholders and also with home owner groups we came up with this framework and we also understood from the women home dwellers that having a safe kitchen and also a fixed and private space for

Sanitation a toilet within their household compound was very important to them so although they have invested the financial support from government to construct these and there was very little awareness on how to use these appropriately so we we see that awareness of proper usage particularly for kitchens and

And to choose the safe type of fuel for indoor cooking was very important to ensure the health of women who are often in the kitchen um in cambodia ggi has implemented a national green city strategic planning methodology and this methodology ensures the participation of women in planning processes so as to achieve the

Social environmental and economic goals that the country has articulated in the ndc’s and the sdgs so this methodology was implemented in the capital city of phnom penh and endorsed by the national council for sustainable development and is currently being replicated in seven secondary cities in cambodia so finally we also conducted

A three-part training program on gender mainstreaming in green grove in the city of sonora in mexico last year so this training was conducted for public and private sector officials from the transportation and the electricity provision sectors and and at the end of the training the participants developed a set of recommendations

On how they see gender being mainstreamed in the two sectors in in the transitions that they will make towards clean energy and towards sustainable transportation and these recommendations were presented to the chief of staff in sonora so i know it was a little bit fast and a little bit too broad but if

You have any questions i’m happy to address them later thank you thank you so much and thank you to all of our presenters i think you’re handing off to there we go um so i’m natalie owell i lead our gender and social equity initiative at world resources institute um and i

Just want to give a a big appreciation to all of our speakers this is a challenging subject as shannon said at the beginning um we’ve been grappling with it for quite a while and and throughout my career i’ve been grappling with it with many different professionals in the energy sector

Um and i think your insights are really helpful for us to start moving the conversation um and as as was mentioned this is not something that gets a lot of attention um while while we may talk about it quite a bit in the the gender community um asking how can we

How can we think about these issues um i think there’s still a lot of unknown and even there where we grapple because it is such a technical sector um and so i want to ask you um from your perspectives and the organizations that you work with what do you see

As some of the obstacles as well as uh opportunities for uh overcoming some of these challenges and and getting our our colleagues to to think this through and to really take up some of these recommendations on a broader scale i put that out to whoever on the panel would like to answer that

Maybe i can have a go um so i think um i sort of alluded it to it as part of the sort of discussion around um retention and sort of the opportunities that this sector presents women um all the way through their careers you know not just sort of the

The early stages and so i think it’s really important for us to ensure that we create that environment through um adjusting the defender page ensuring that there is appropriate educational opportunities and sort of growth opportunities within those spaces to support career development um for women and to make sure that they

Are able to address these challenges and and the direction that the sector is moving you know we’re sort of aware of people that kind of leave um that leave the post and go maternity leave to sort of start a family and come back and there’s you know whole new regulations to

Grapple with and sort of design tools and way that things are being approached and so really kind of helping that process to sort of bring um bring everyone along with the this direction and the way that the sector needs to respond to the to the climate change to

And so many other of the the huge crises that are facing us at the moment and so i think that can that can definitely go a long way to ensure that women don’t need to make a choice of one or the other path thank you joelle or christina sir um so for me

I see one big challenges and many opportunities which i think is quite optimistic um the main challenge is that energy is a one is still a one discipline topic uh energy has always been and is still the prerogative of engineers and technical people and while we obviously need this technical input

Um clean and modern energy is also a basic human human right and it has social and environmental uh ramifications and energy both at the supply and demand side is at the center of the fight against climate change so with a topic that is just so profoundly multifaceted

One of the big challenge is that we do not have a more interdisciplinary approach to energy so that’s the big challenge i think uh as for opportunities i’m i’m just very optimistic about the direction that the energy sector is uh taking it’s been incremental but i feel that the sector underwent a

Major change over uh the past five years and uh you now see requirements to consider gender equality in most energy projects that are financed by international organizations and this would have been just completely impossible more than five years ago so i definitely think we are in the right direction

Uh i i saw some amazing initiatives uh in some regions i’m thinking of west africa that has been so proactive in mainstreaming gender in their energy access policy framework um so i think our our opportunities and i’ll go back to to the topic of my presentation is really

We need to clearly identify gender differentiated energy needs and once this is clear it it will just unfold naturally that will we will then find solutions and then we will have results that are more gender equal and we need to find solution to enhance collaboration between actors from different fields we can’t expect

The national ministry of energy to be able to mainstream gender in their policy and programs it’s not their job and they do not have the background to achieve this but we can go a long way with a collaboration between the ministry of energy and the ministry of women

For example as long as both get the proper training thank you christina yeah thank you um yeah i think actually both victoria and joelle have covered their responses really really well so i just wanted to add that um yeah i think one of the obstacles really is this difficulty in working interdisciplinarily and

And introducing gender into a very technical subject is is a big challenge just because um the professionals in the field who have traditionally been responsible for delivering the outputs are not trained to do these assessments and have not been required to integrate these considerations so if we now say that you are required

To consider um these different um issues in your design or in your plans um then we also need to provide some tools um on how how we can do that yeah so so yeah there aren’t existing tools then the the special the professionals that are practicing in these

Fields are not trained to do so so i think these these difficulties also present an opportunity for a lot of organizations or a lot of personnel like us to to fill the gap and um i think in particular a lot of local grassroots organizations that have been working

On either on safety of women in public spaces or on house access to adequate housing they have really documented the the differentiated gender needs in regard to infrastructure or the built environment and a first step would be really engaging these these organizations and then to build the capacity of women

Groups and to build the capacity of the engineering and architectural professionals to engage with each other so that these concerns are are properly um integrated in the delivery of green buildings or in sustainable infrastructure in clean energy and and this whole transition towards a greener built environment

Great thank you um one thing i’d like to open up to all of you and to our audience um is this question of um so within the the community i it’s it’s highly technical and i think there’s this this concern that we’re trying to get go for low hanging fruit with cities

Just so that they’ll take up some of the the um zero carbon recommendations and it can be more challenging when you start thinking through how do we ensure that our investments in building efficiency are benefiting um marginalized people or how do we look at equity within the um the distribution of the benefits

From these investments um so i i wonder if we could think through or if people have thoughts about that from our audience as well um what what recommendations we might have for raising the ambition on how we can really think about equity within energy efficiency or building efficiency

Sure natalie so i think you’re right about the the low-hanging fruit i think it was the it’s the right place to start as a as a sector addressing those sort of immediate benefits um really help us build confidence in things like short-term returns if you sort of spend

Um maybe a little bit more money on something that’s more efficient it’s going to save you in the in the long term and people can see that if it’s something that happens immediately if it affects their energy bills sort of instantly if they make a switch for the type of light bulbs

They’re using or the type of energy they are the the sort of energy provider they’re using and but the sorts of improvements that we’re talking about that we need to achieve as a sector need much deeper interventions it needs to be thought about long-term um we need to sort of be yes

Thinking about the things that can benefit us immediately but um how can we implement systemic change how do different systems work together how can buildings with different profiles that are within the same community be sharing energy and how can energy efficiency measures from from cities sort of grants and incentives how can they

Benefit homeowners and business owners in terms of the amount of energy they consume and therefore the the cost of operating those buildings so um we do need to be thinking about those those immediate changes that can be made but also the sort of longer term whole life carbon perspective

And to make sure that we’re actually not implementing sort of short-term solutions that need to be changed more frequently which actually might not give us the best outcome in the long term so that means creating demand and women as as the decision makers for for things like energy

Provider within within the homes for example creating that demand and knowing what your energy choices are you know making sure that that your local government is supporting those sorts of decisions and what that means for consumer and consumption patterns for for things like energy and water consumption you know how much plastic we

Use and all those sort of decisions that are becoming embedded in day-to-day life that you can see right in front of you when we’re talking about something like energy you know it’s really difficult to sort of make that connection between turning on the light switch and you know a coal-fired power plant

Somewhere a long way away or you know an energy at a um a wind farm for example and so having that sort of very real-time um view of how of how the decisions you’re making are affecting these big challenges then i think that can really help and so

In addition to that financial support and again incentives for improving energy efficiency of homes and um and training programs that we’re seeing all over the world to help sort of build this capacity uh it really does need that demand we need to be using our voices to say you know this is what

We want from our from our homes from our schools from our from our offices great thank you any other panelists before i add to that as well um yeah i think i think one one thing we need to accept right as a fact is that for for equity in benefits

To it’s really to understand or accept and that it is really difficult to help the poorest of the poor and it takes effort and commitment and very often when we are introducing energy efficiency projects we need quick results we need quick profits and so the obvious choice is then to go for low

Hanging fruits so to ensure that you know the all these benefits this that come from increase energy efficiency or increased performance from appliances can reach the poorest people we need to really know that there is um a political commitment to this that someone is going to pay for this and someone actually wants

To see this happen and then organizations will be able to to put in the the required infrastructure so i think i think in this in this um in our projects very often we we want to reach the the poorest to to ensure there is some uh reduced gaps between the rich and the

Poor and to ensure that the benefits trickle down but the reality is that to reach the poorest communities requires a lot of incremental effort a lot of incremental costs as well as incremental risks or failure for the projects so so we need to explicitly um acknowledge these difficulties

And then to address this in in partnership with the local government with the local private sector and then to work out a solution um but it only comes when everyone is committed to to deliver these results yeah thank you i’m going to pause for just a minute to let anybody from the audience

Uh if they have uh an intervention on that that point or another um to unmute yourself and then speak in uh speak up um because i can’t see any hands on the panel on the side there are there any comments from the audience it looks like uh we have a hand from

Anakuros from green building council costa rica great go ahead thank you so much i find uh so interesting this discussion and the the way it has been presented i think that there is something that was mentioned at the onstart and maybe it would be good also to have

Some information uh you mentioned some statistics about the the way a this industry or this sector is conformed in terms of uh women in in the uh at universities and in the field etc but i think that also even within our a world gbc we do not have uh

Information as to for example how are boards uh structured and what is a good a governance um indication of how those boards for our different consoles are uh conformed uh we have in costa rica legislation that requires that we do have parity in in our boards and maybe some other countries have that

And is this happening with our own uh green building councils because one of the presentations did address how important it is uh that at the highest decision level we do have not only the operational but the decision level we do have this vision from a the the the different uh a

Gender the women and and men and sometimes that is not there and that also looks at the other different sectors that we are addressing which is not only the construction but also at the public levels and the central government or federal government and local governments and within the industry

In the private sector because i i think that we do need to a make those changes and it it accelerates when we have a the the living experience from the women that are at those decision levels so i think that’s a challenge and also an opportunity to to see how

We can move forward in that direction too thank you yeah i think that’s really important um to think through a number of other sectors have some sort of they’re usually voluntary guidance but um that provide organizations governments businesses with some direction on that and there are some some global standards but it’d be

Interesting to see to hear from the panelists if their companies um follow anything like that or if they they have any um set of guidance that they would recommend that people use or refer to hi nicely i mean i would hi anna um great to hear from you and um so

Fascinating that costa rica has that as legislation i certainly hadn’t heard of of something similar and um and i think we can certainly do a lot um as the association that we are the the um the organization that we are to sort of try and drive

More of that within our community so i’d love to to work with you on how we can we can make improvements immediately and maybe then we can we can use that process to help share some of that knowledge and that experience of going through that process to um

To the members of the green building councils as well because that would be that would be fascinating i know we’ve we’ve had um targets for gender parity on our board and maybe others do you know not just from a regulation perspective but from organizationally uh you know through their own csr goals

So yeah that they’d be great to take that further with you thank you great uh i’m going to give the final word to sumaida uh from our from deborah’s india office hi hi thanks natalie um just two sort of comments uh and you know areas for further research and considerations uh

Because we were talking about opportunities so i’m wondering whether we have been able to examine the role of green buildings at the point of construction in india and in many developing countries there is a large and formal construction sector most of which is you know women oriented and women are proportionally more

Exposed to construction-related pollutants so is there research and data looking at how greener buildings can mitigate uh pollutants better on construction sites um the second being the role of better design or social housing to reduce indoor air pollutants um in india we have come across some recent

Uh case studies about how social housing in in mumbai has been transformed to allow for better ventilation but the entry point uh being there was the higher incidence of tuberculosis and how uh more efficient construction and slightly better design of openings and windows was able to minimizes uh this sort of

Reduction in tuberculosis incidents in women and the last point is really uh you know a rather a question back to the panelists and probably you also natalie is that how can we avoid this trap of making gender considerations a mere check box yes exactly

Sorry i think are we going till 10 30 i think i misunderstood the time um so we’ve got a bit more time for questions um is that the case can i ask the organizers so uh technically we are out of time on the webinar

It won’t end until we end it so if if we want 10 minutes for discussion we have it okay great now i i want to respect everyone’s time here if we said until 10 so i think these are all incredible points and this um for me this has been very insightful um

I think there’s a lot of other entry points that we can be thinking about i hope it’s opened up some ideas for you to keep thinking through in your work uh where you could start nudging um some of these these issues and i agree with some of our panelists this is

There’s a whole range of things from starting with education um and and training engineers and people who work in these these fields early on uh about how to look at equity how to look at gender issues how to think through uh long term what we what we need to be doing in the

Impact of some of these investments because they are long-term investments um and through to the the project cycle right and thinking about how at every stage we might build that in uh there was a comment in the chat about about mainstreaming and so thinking through just all the different points where we

Might bring this in and it sounds to me like there’s probably a some interest in a community of practice so hopefully through the the bea uh we can continue this conversation so i i’m grateful to our presenters as well as to my colleagues uh who organized this event for for raising this

This concern and these questions and and opening up the opportunity for all of us to start discussing this uh so thank you all for joining as well and i look forward to an ongoing conversation about this natalie or shannon if you have any final remarks thanks natalie no final remarks just

Want to thank everyone so much for joining us today and yes uh note that we do intend to carry this conversation forward both internally to the bea and in our partnerships with other buildings and construction alliances around the world so we look forward to seeing you all there

To continue these important points and thanks so much again to our speakers and uh to you natalie for for moderating all right everyone thanks thank you everyone thank you

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Time: 1597946530
Date: 2020-08-20 22:32:10
Duration: 01:01:03

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