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قسمتي از متن فيلم: Welcome bambinjos bienvenidos it is wonderful to have you once again with us today’s webinar is the last one in the series of the vision zero challenge webinar today we will be reflecting on 2020 and we will talk about what is next for 2021 this is the agenda today our urban

Director uh for wri sergio veleda will be joining us and he will welcome us and give introductions to the panelists then we will have a presentation about the due and second decade of action for role safety and the stockholm declaration from dr ethan crook i will be making a recap of

All our webinars and we will have the mental so get ready and we will then have an amazing panel to discuss what comes next finally matt’s okay believe the director of the bishop academy at the swedish transport administration will be giving his closing remarks and with that i would like to turn to

Sergio velez sergio please the floor is yours thank you very much claudia welcome everyone who is joining this amazing vision zero challenge this journey on latin america to support city stream plan to division zero vision zero methodology to eliminate fatalities on trafficking so welcome our amazing cities are equipped in peru belo horizonte

Brazil In mexico cusco peru fortaleza northeast of brazil amazing guadalajara from mexico in dia tuba it’s closed i’m in sao paulo just right now i’m close then in diatoma in brazil la paz the highest city here probably bolivia lima amazing lima welcome colombia and merida mexico montevideo in mexico argentina salvador brazil

Santiago de chile sao paulo where i am just right now in brazil and my background is sao paulo downtown san jose costa rica san salvador el salvador santa cruz bolivia amazing group of cities iconic cities in latin america that are working to eliminate fatalities in trafficking next slide please

Thank you very much i want to thank to say thank you very much for these organizations who is joining with us from wri uh this division zero challenge it’s a very important group of entities that are working together to develop these webinars and this challenge fia foundation a traditional entity that

Is supporting different initiatives around the world in road safety fundacion gonzalo rodriguez a very important organization from uruguay working latin america on road safety inter-american development bank our american bank is to support country cities to develop and they are doing an amazing job in transportation and in road safety itf international transport forum

Important organization that conduct a lot of research and work on transportation latin cap dedicated to organization dedicated to road safety tower zero foundation helping a lot to spread vision zero challenge vision zero messaging visions xero academy uh uh also an important organization uh uh spreading the ma the road safety

Messages uk aid the uk development agency thank you very much for your partnership and global road safety facility and the world bank group amazing organizations focusing on on road safety very very amazing work that they are doing on transportation and safety thank you very much thank you our sponsors who made it

Feasible who supported us to develop this challenge 3m amazing innovative company ptv group uh dedicated to support the cities and private sector to develop different solutions for herbal mobility and volvo group a very committed organization with road safety thank you very much for your support now please be aware to

Use this chat all panelists and the end attendees attendees please select this option to submit your questions all your questions will be considered by the organizers but you should use this option check all panelists and attendees to submit your questions today we have an amazing panelists the very important authorities and leaders

On road safety it is a pleasure for us from wri to introduce you our panelists today iu ask our panelists to introduce themselves in a short and a brief introduction etienne krug who is director of department of the social determinants of health on who world health organization switzerland please attend introduce

Yourself in a brief introduction thank you with bon dia buenos diaz hi everybody it’s a pleasure to be with you i’m etienne krug i’m director at the world health organization as was just said and i also chair the united nations broad safety collaboration thank you we are excited to hear you today mariana

Allegri she is an executive director in an important organization in peru lima como vamos please mariana introduce yourselves hello hi i’m mariana alegre i’m very very happy to be here and i will um i am very very prone to have our city lima and other cities in in peru

Join the network so we can actually have less fatalities and have a better quality life thank you sergey thank you mariana for joining thank you very much sergio martinez who is sub-secretary of mobility policy district mobility agency bogota mitocho sergio welcome thank you very much for joining please introduce yourself

Yes good morning thank you um well my name is sergio obviously martinez i’m the other secretary of mobility policy the secretary of mobility at bota and um we’re in charge of lady vision cereal forever with us so you know we’re very honored to be here with you guys and you know

Really happy to be able to share some of our experiences with you guys thank you thank you sir now anna maria pinto who is leader transport specialist in the inter-american development bank an important leader on transportation i thank you very much for your support and partnership please introduce yourself thank you

Everyone thank you sergio claudia for the invitation i’m anna maria pinto i’m a lead transfer especially at the inter-american development bank and i’m in charge of leading our road safety strategy i just want here to confirm the commitment of the bank to support governments in latin america to improve the road safety

And and try to to tackle this great challenge that we have in the region so thank you and and we will have opportunity to to talk more in detail about how we can support the cities during the seminar thank you thank you anna maria now we swear to rides who is Thank you very much for joining i think you have a great messages from london the city that is doing an amazing job in road safety please store to introduce yourself hello everybody it’s a great pleasure to join you all for this meeting uh my name is stuart reed and i am responsible for

Transport for london’s vision zero uh strategy and policy and it’s great to be working with you all to do everything we can to eliminate deaths and serious injuries from transport thank you it’s true you’re welcome thank you very much and leah shahoon who is founder and director of

Vision zero network in united states thank you leah for joining us i know you are doing an amazing job in the united states please introduce yourself thank you very much thank you hi everyone leah shayam and i run the non-profit called vision zero network in the us

We’re working with more than 45 local communities that have committed division zero mainly working through peer exchange to help them learn from each other and to help really encourage best practices for safe systems so thank you so much for having us thank you leah thank you for joining us

Uh before i will ask etienne to start his presentation i would like to ask everyone to open your cameras and to say hello for everyone to see everyone on this panel thank you claudia thank you it’s amazing to see all of these people from different parts of the world

Joining this effort to spread road safety messages thank you very much i hope you will have a very interesting and useful session today i want to ask atien to start his presentation thank you very much thank you claude obrigado sergio hi everybody again greetings from geneva where it’s a really

Gray and cold day so when sergio was reading the list of cities just a few minutes ago i was like oh my god i’d like to be in lima i’d like to be in cusco i’d like to be in buenos aires i’d like to be in

Kali in bogota and all the places you just listed rather than here in my cold attic but this is the new reality so glad to be there nevertheless to talk a little bit about looking back at 2020 and looking forward at 20 uh 21. um i’m actually going to look

Forward even a bit more and look forward really at the next uh 10 years of course 2020 was started off on a big high for road safety where many of us were in stockholm in february at the beginning of the year we had uh more than 1 500 participants we had

Dozens of ministers more than 120 countries there talking about the future and about road safety and and what needs to happen and of course little did we know a few weeks later many of us were locked up for several months and and the whole world changed dramatically

Um but and a lot of the momentum was lost but i think we are in the process of regaining this momentum as you might know the u.n general assembly just a few weeks ago adopted a new resolution and probably the most important resolution the u.n has adopted on-road safety

In the past 15 years because on one hand it declared a decade of action of road safety 2021 2030. and of course it’s the second decade um we are in the process of finishing the first decade which led the ground for quite considerable uh progress it did elevate the attention

It did get many countries to develop plans and implement them and it did lead to some success in some countries including in in some of your countries uh you can think of brazil for example but it did not lead to the reductions in debt and injuries we had hoped at the global level

So now we’re getting ready for the second decade of action i’m just actually coming out of a two-hour meeting with claudia and others discussing the plan for that decade because we are developing a solid plan which uh is going to be on one hand building on what we have because i think

What we’ve been doing is the right thing we’ve been focusing on the five pillars of action in terms of the management of road safety the vehicles the infrastructure road user behavior and trauma care and we need to continue doing that because this is the foundation of road safety

But clearly it has not been enough we also have to think about the whole system around that think about modal shift moving away from a car based transportation system to a much more active transportation system where walking and cycling and public transport is made safe and therefore can also be prioritized

We need to think more about our young people our youth which are uh which as you know road traffic crashes have become the leading cause at age five already at the global level up to age 30. so we need to prioritize young people we need to interact more with the

Private sector the private sector has such a huge role to play of course in the building of the cars and the infrastructure but also because it has these huge fleets um and we need to interact more and bring the private sector on board and more conscious about the business case for uh road

Safety so we have i think a number of of new priorities that are emerging while continuing to build this road safety system and this has been clearly laid out in the stockholm declaration which was adopted in the stockholm ministerial conference as well as in the new un

General assembly resolution so we have a clear target 50 reduction we cannot achieve that by focusing only on national governments we have to work more at the city level and that’s why i’m here talking to you because i do believe so much in the importance of city leaders and

City leadership for road safety so please count on us in engaging with you more in in the coming decade we also have another very important element in this new un general assembly resolution which is the the call for a high level meeting of the un general assembly on road safety in 2022

We have never had a high level meeting like that and what does it mean by the way a high-level meeting these meetings are usually held on the day before the opening of the uh general assembly and they bring together heads of state to discuss important topics there’s only been very few

On health issues there’s been some on hiv on tuberculosis and on non-communicable diseases so having one on road safety is really important and it will be another opportunity for raising the attention to the topic at the highest level of government because this is really where it needs to happen

This is not only for ministers of transport or for ministers of health or of interior this needs to be a comprehensive multi-sexual issue and response and therefore it needs to be led at the highest level of government to ensure the right coordination also with finance and development for example foreign affairs

And many other ministries education that need to be involved so so i think although today the reality of the world is pretty tricky and difficult and a bit grim our future for road safety is promising i think if we all work together and if we all push

This common agenda at the national at the international and at the city level we can make the progress that is needed over the next 10 years so thanks very much for having me uh and and please count on us in the world health organization in the un road safety collaboration

To work with you in cities with cities in the years to come thank you thank you very much again it is really great to hear from you and thank you for all your leadership on road safety globally it is really a pleasure to have you with us

Um all right so now we are gonna do a recap of what has happened in the past weeks um let me show my screen again okay so we have had five webinars in the past weeks and i we have selected few of the quotes that were um set across these uh

Webinars and one that we really like is the one from soleta mandela she said visual series an approach that we know works it is about understanding that road traffic fatalities are both unacceptable and preventable our roads must and can be made safe and we have this solution

This is soleika mandela the child health initiative global ambassador that joined us in the first webinar so um on september 25th we talk about overcoming the barriers to the safe system approach and this is really important as ctn just mentioned the new decade of action the second decade of action

In the token declaration are rooted in the safe system approach so we need to really understand how our cities and our countries can adapt to this new approach to growth safety and there are barriers so we identify um some of them and here it is the results of the first

Millimeter as you might recall the first thing was that the perception of pros safety as a personal responsibility the lack of leadership and finally the perception that the safe system approach is a luxury item for rich countries only very interesting answers we also had the cost of planning and implementation and here

Eugene maria rodriguez from the pan-american health organization told us to talk about how to have better city health we have to consider everything as related in some hospitals 70 percent of the bets are occupied by road traffic victims so she was talking about the need to consider the impact

Of traffic injuries and deaths on our health care capacity and we talk about what is the cornerstone of the safe system approach what are those principles that lead the safe system approach and we talk about things that might be self-explanatory but when we go outside to the streets

Turns out the speeds are built the system is built for us to not make any mistakes and we know that human makes mistakes so we have to start building our systems to pardon these mistakes humans are vulnerable to injury as a matter of fact very very vulnerable to injury only at 30

Kilometers per hour if a pedestrian is hit we’ll have 20 percent of probabilities of dying the responsibility has to be shared we have to have uh our decision makers our planners engineers architects are also ready to respond and to create this safe system not that or serious injury is acceptable and

Finally we have to act proactively and not reactively we have 1 million 350 000 fatalities every year those are all cases that tell us where the problem is so right now we have enough evidence in information to act the second one was a webinar on bicycle lanes emergency bicycle lens

Why because due to coffee 19 a lot more people decided to bike and so when we ask what is the word that describes your experience with emerging bike lanes in 2020 the first ones was risk but also surrounded with opportunity again back to what ethereum was just telling us

We have a great opportunity to really address growth safety but also to work on making our cities places that are more sustainable that are more hospitable for all of us so addressing the risk in bicycle infrastructure is key and here are the answers to your messy mirror what are the main questions about

The politics of emerging bike lanes and the first one was around the community how to engage them the second one was concerns about creating more traffic congestion and finally how to empower political leaders to promote emerging violence in here we have a quote from anders harmon

From the city of oslo he was telling us that if children have to use the sidewalk because the by-leg is not safe enough that’s probably a sign that you should have chosen a different design so this is a very simple and straightforward way to start measuring how our psychologists

Have been discussed we also presented a new piece of research that has been done with the support uh from the dutch cycling embassy the danish cycling embassy uh the league of american bicyclists in uh the city of oslo uh with wri on safety and bicycle lane design and we have

I’m gonna point out because this is a recap only to this to the principles so we are talking about safe speeds speeds really matter when we have cycling in our cities we should not have any speeds that are over 50 kilometers per hour if we want to promote cycling and

More people walking as well we need to have a network approach safe design in particular intersections and how the lanes are designed what is the width for example communications and engagement the community has to be very present and finally management and enforcement and we learned quite a bit uh

With our friend alexandre santa claus about paris and how they are really working on this network approach you can see the city of paris and they are really developing a network of bicycle lanes and even making big decisions like shifting the bus lane one lane to the left

To be able to have the cyclists on one wing direction next to the curve so very impressive the work done there in in many other places they could talk about children and role safety this is one of the statistics that really hurts my heart the number one cause of death around the world

For children 5 to 14 in young others 15 to 29 are traffic crashes so this is something we definitely need to work on and here when we ask what dedicated role safety planning for children exists in your city many of you are answered that you are working on 30

۲۰ ۳۰ kilometers per hour zones that you are working on traffic calming around the schools and low speed zones around the schools districts one of our entities was lars ekman and he told us we have to understand that people make mistakes at the core of the safe system approach

Look at this it’s interesting that society seems to have more acceptance for well-educated others doing the mistake of not keeping to the speed limit rather than accepting children’s mistakes so we need to really design a city for our kids to be able to use that public space and to be safe

Anidas gupta the director of the cities program at wri told us what makes a child-friendly city accessible green space absolutely important for them in particular now that we are in kobe 19 this is a space for children to be able to have some play time some exercise safe working in cycling

Infrastructure low speed zones carry free streets safest full songs and of course clean air zones now speed is absolutely at the core of the safe system approaching one of the tough cookies as we said so we asked you which is the most common challenge you experience when seeking to reduce speeds in your

City and you told us well public concerns about increasing congestion and travel time then we have political opposition it is very difficult to communicate with communities and finally legal and regulatory barriers here blair turner joined us and it was really impressive to find that in an extra survey of

۳۵ ۰۰۰ respondents across 32 countries less than 20 percent find it acceptable to drive faster than the speed limit less than 10 in built up areas in urban areas most people believe that the speed is a cause of road crashes up to 80 percent and up to 90 percent suggested the traffic

Rules should be stricter so when we hear those very loud voices against managing the speeds and making the speed safer in our cities let’s remember that they are the minority and you know we have to bust some needs about the speed management and here are the ones that blair present

Is it isn’t a major cause of road crashes well it is the public communities want higher speeds not necessarily what they don’t want is to travel long distances and to be stuck in traffic lower speeds have a never negative economic impact with 1 million 350 000 people deaf with young people and children

It is impossible to believe that there is an economic impact if we manage our speech and make them safer speed cameras are just a way to generate more money for governments in the past there have been a lot of mistakes with the speed cameras but right now yesterday for example

Kali in colombia started with a speed management program and reduced the speed citywide to 50 kilometers per hour they are calling the speed cameras speed um saving lives cameras it is so correct uh how they are calling it education and training will solve the speed problem we’re

Not free we really need to act on giving our cities speeds that are safe and finally we talk about data we need data to be able to prioritize and we ask you what information does your city require to move from isolated interventions to a safe system approach

And we discuss about location of crashes we need to have more geolocated data seriousness of injury which is something our data is not recording yet it’s mostly traffic fatalities and finally a speed of gold users what is the speed that we have in our cities here i really like this quote from sarah

Whitehead from vitaly strategist she said nobody has perfect data everyone has weaknesses in their data system when they start in on this path of a safe system approach that should never be a barrier a deterrent to achieving the safe system and here kenneth smithson from sweden that has been working quite

A bit on this topic told us even though you don’t have the best data with the vicious your approach you can still work proactively but of course with data you can do it better now when we talk about vision zero it seems a little overwhelming right so we need to start having

Some intermediate outcomes and this is a part of what stephen presented that has been adopted by the european union we need to have intermediate outcomes and targets that are based on key performance indicators then we will go to entering targets for example 50 percent reduction on debts and serious injuries

By 2013 and then we have a long-term uh goal which is eliminating deaths and serious injuries by 2050. it has been a wonderful journey with all of you and i’m very grateful that you were able to join all these webinars with high level experts so now let’s see what comes next and i

Would like to ask my colleague alejandro to help us with the 90 meter poll today alejandro take it away thank you very much claudia for the great presentation and thank you everybody for being here today in this last webinar of the year as claudia mentioned i will go over

The many questions in one second it’s going to go ahead and share my screen claudia looks like you’ll have to stop sharing your screen excellent thank you all right so first we’re going to ask everybody to go to www.menti.com and enter the code 8785768 and as you can see here are the

Questions of the first uh sets of uh of the first question here’s the answers um what topic do you think your city would like to focus more on moving forward you have first comprehensive road safety planning then speed followed by children data road infrastructure and then cycling infrastructure i’ll give you about a

Minute to select up to three answers we already see a couple coming in so thank you for taking the time to do this again you can use your cell phone or your computer to go to www.menti.com enter the code 8785768 we have a couple more answers coming in we’ll give you another minute

And then we’ll move over to the next question excellent thank you you see quite a few on comprehensive road safety planning and cycling infrastructure as that is an important topic these days during the pandemic when a lot of cities are implementing emerging cycle lanes it looks like we’re almost ready to move

On to the next question so i will go ahead and activate the next slide it looks like we already have a few answers next question is what do you need the most and this is considering the challenges ahead during this global pandemic we have first political leadership support then financial resources

In technical capacity more data in collaboration across sectors there are lots of answers coming in so thank you we’ll give you another minute for this question number two you can also enter up to three answers here we see obviously a lot of responses on political leadership and support very important

As well as financial resources in collaboration across sectors crucial challenging yet very crucial okay so we have almost 20 answers and thanks again for taking the time to provide your answers and i’ll head over back to claudia to start the panel discussion thank you very much alejandro um

Great so now i would like to call my panelist if you can kindly turn on your cameras uh leah i see stuart and we should have sergio as well very good mariana great ana maria if you are ready you can turn on your camera and let’s get started very good so we have

About um let’s say 40 minutes a little bit less than that and i just would like to ask you to help our cities as you have seen they are very keen on started working on their comprehensive role safety plans they also are very keen to talking about cycling

In children uh those are very present uh needs in their cities so i would like to get started with sergio uh on syracuse because botha is one of the cities in latin america that has embraced the concept of the safe system approach vision zero and i just would like for

You to tell us first of all how that process um happened and then what are the main points that you have focused on what is working what is giving results please sergeant yes hi claudia thank you so you know this is uh i think the most important

Message that we can give to our series is that this is a very difficult process no matter where you do it no matter how you do it it’s gonna be long it’s gonna be very difficult and you’re gonna have a lot of pressure you know to try to make you detour from

Where you want to go to really really it’s it’s it’s a it’s an obstacle race and i was i was looking at uh the responses that the people were giving and when i was seeing that uh political leadership was uh you know one of the ones getting

The most responses i was totally nodding because i think that’s probably the most important uh factor at least to start the process because you know of course you also need money but you’re not gonna get money if you don’t have the political support you know so it’s kind of like okay you

Know chicken and egg and we’ve been lucky in bogota you know we have to uh recognize that luck has been a part of uh you know the results that we’re getting because we were able to achieve something that is not very common at least not in latin america

Which is to have continuity you know in the public policies a lot of times you have this really good idea you set up your program we have made yours that last for four years and at the end then you get you know the political uh scenario is always like a pendulum

Right you know everywhere it goes to one side one or two elections later it’s gonna move the other side and what happened in the past is that the engine the people that of course they want to you know put their flag on the ground and just claim a totally

You know different objective totally different vision and that’s always very difficult of course and we’ve been lucky in that we started at the beginning of a new administration very focused on putting road safety as the primary goal for uh mobility in bogota and so we had four

Years in which we were able to work you know with dollar with bloomberg with idv with world bank with all these great organizations that gave us a lot of support you know to work and we had you know very good results good enough that when we have a change

In administration this this year this past january with a new major from a totally different political party we were able to convince her that we needed to continue moving towards achieving efficiency and like i said there’s so much that we can do on the technical side but if you don’t have that continuity

It’s going to be very difficult and getting a little more into into the details i think um of course you have to have this but to get that and again it’s kind of like a chicken and egg you need to have data right and you need to be able to

Show your leaders what you’re talking about because when we’re talking before about uh some of the difficulties that that we’re having in the cities to try to move ahead with you know implement vision zero and reduce speeds and everything there are many factors but i think there’s one that kind of like

Links them all together and that is that for most people road safety is not the primary subject in their minds especially for politicians you know and unless you know somebody that have died in a in an accident or a friend or a relative or co-worker or something for most people

That’s just not an issue so when you start talking about you need to reduce speeds then of course you get everybody talking about congestion and you know more emissions competitivity for the city whatever because they don’t see it as a problem and i think that’s the

Under that’s the bottom line we need to make uh the reduction of speed a problem a public health problem you know kind of like what kowi did to us i don’t know if your city but we uh we started getting you know the first cases of kobe late in february

Of this year and it’s amazing the amount of things that not only the city government but citizens have changed because of code they totally change we totally change the way we work the way we move the way we shop the way we educate our kids

Because we saw this as a problem so of course you know the magnitude is a bit different but you know road safety it’s also a pandemia it’s also a big public health crisis that we’re having and so i think the bottom line message is that we really need to transmit that

That message that citizens understand and and believe that this is a problem because otherwise it’s just going to be you know kind of like us engineers and and planners and everything kind of like you know raising our hands and not getting a lot of attention and and just to finish there’s one point

That kind of like links all of this together at least i guess at the city agency uh within a city agency and that is the management of our agencies you know for example secretary mobility it’s also temporary you know it changes when the majors change sometimes even faster than that but there’s people

That’s you know stay there and stay there for many years and the problem and and that’s why i was uh raising the point of the importance of continuity is that every time you get a new secretary mobility every time you get an imager you get new ideas right and new priorities

And for these people that have seen these changes five ten times maybe they don’t feel that motivated so for us it was really really important to invest a lot in capacity building first within our agency so that our traffic engineers believe in what we’re trying to do

I’m sure you’ll have a lot of examples of that but that was probably the first major obstacle that we have to remove because of course they were trying to move vehicles and move them as fast as possible so when you get these new people telling them hey we need to slow down

We need to dig out the pedestrian they’re like well so you know this is this is where we need dollyride bloomberg etc to help us transmit that message first within our agencies so that next time there’s a new upper management they’re the ones that are gonna be

Asking them to do it to continue what we were doing before thank you very much serge that is really excellent um so political leadership really important but also how we build our foundation within our city um governments and with that i would like to turn to a store

Because you have been living in london um the visual zero plan and we have a city in latin america has said you know it wasn’t easy how was in london how was the process in what are your recommendations what are your tips the store for our latin american cities

We start working on the safe system approach uh thanks gloria um well nothing nothing is ever easy is it um but i think the the things which have helped us in london uh firstly the recognition that vision zero has to be part of a wider policy package and the recognition that

Some of the ambitions that the political leadership in london that the mayor of london has for sustainable activity for improvements to air quality and environmental quality um for the mode share of active travel modes for transport to be inclusive and for vision zero are all mutually interlocking and reinforcing objectives

And so vision zero doesn’t sit out on its own to one side as a sort of um isolated piece of policy it’s actually a critical enabler for some of the wider ambitions that the the the mayor has for london and that transport for london has for london as a city

And uh to see ourselves as a an agency which supports um supports a growing and dynamic city rather than just as an organization that runs transport so i think that’s that’s has been important for us is to put vision zero and road safety right into the middle of that

Broader policy context uh where it’s understood that you can’t advance one part of the agenda without advancing all parts of the agenda and i think the second thing and i think i may have said this you know one of the previous uh webinars it’s very easy in a big city

Administration or a big agency like transport for london force version zero to become a bit technocratic to be understood in terms of data and trends and engineering standards and so on and whilst those things are important it’s also really important that this is understood as a human issue and that

One of the things we’ve done which has been very valuable in um strengthening the political commitment and support for vision zero is to give a voice to the people who are the victims of road collisions because it’s very easy to sit in a meeting and look at a graph and make a decision

That you’re not going to do something because you don’t like the graph it’s much harder to look somebody in the face who has been bereaved or disabled or had their future changed as a result of a road collision until the vision zero doesn’t matter so i think

This is part of that broader coalition building that you’ve talked about and into that coalition need to come the voices of the third sector the voices of the community and those those voices are out there those people are out there but they’re not always the people that will shout in a debate

And you need to bring them actively into the discussion and into the policy arena and then i think the other thing is that i think safe systems is a fantastic idea it’s a wonderful framework and it’s really helpful but i think what you have to do is take those concepts

And really look at your own specific versions of the road safety problem in your city and work out how safe systems applies most effectively in your particular context and go very hard after the things which will make the biggest difference in your your locality so for london that’s been you know we’ve

Gone very strongly after lowering speed limits we’ve gone very strongly after um uh segregated infrastructure for cyclists and better better street design for people walking uh we’ve gone very strongly after um some of the most high-risk vehicles on the london’s road network like heavy goods vehicles

And to an extent buses and looked at the standards of construction and design of those vehicles we haven’t tried to do everything all at once and so i think working out where your own local focus should be or needs to be is a key key success factor

Very very good thank you very much stuart i really really like how you have framed the political economy what is really interesting in your cities because we are all suffering is either air qualities congestion is inequality in all those entry points at some point cross cut withdrawal safety

And that the moment where we need to start building that um broader agendas you were saying steward also super important to you know go away a little bit from these big numbers a million 350 uh four thousand four hundred what is that um at the end of the day is the people

That are suffering um i mean i keep repeating this horrendous fact the first cause of that for children are traffic crashes how can humanity can accept um and finally tailor it to your needs in the case of london they identify okay speeds are too high if we want to sustain our city

Then we need to lower the speeds we need to provide safe space for cycling and pedestrians at the bottom of that if you can see is this rejection of just blaming the victim not even the truck driver because one thing that london has been doing is working on how that vehicle

Is designed and how we can help that driver to be able to stop quicker that big machine when we are asking that person to drive in a city that is very dense so what is really what you need to be targeting in your city and with that

Thank you very much stewart i want to chief now to lia because you’ve been working in the united states supporting and following the initiatives across many u.s cities that are really interested in shifting to the safe system approach so if you see there are certain similarities with division zero

Challenge leah in the sense that it is a network that is forming all these cities are really keen of rejecting their serious injuries from their systems um and you are several steps in front of us so can you tell us what are you learning from this network what are the struggles

Of the city what are those wings that you are seeing as well thank you thank you claudia you know i’ll say i’ve been very pleasantly surprised but truly surprised that we’ve had the interest uh mostly from the local level or the municipal level in vision zero you know if you’d asked

Me six or seven years ago would we see elected leaders mayors and others even folks like police chiefs and transportation directors would we see them stand up and publicly say we’re going to reach the goal of zero zero traffic deaths or severe injuries you know i wouldn’t have thought that

Was possible even six or seven years ago so i’m really pleasantly surprised that we’ve seen the growth we have a vision zero commitment across cities mainly that said i think you know a big part of our challenge similar to others is there is this disconnect i think

Um between the goal of vision zero and and the the of course shared goal we have of safety for everyone everyone believes that wants that i think yet there’s not a deep understanding and certainly not yet a uh deep acceptance of the safe system’s principles to do the work so i’ll say

As positive as some change has been and i really want to give credit to folks especially in places like new york city seattle across the country cities are doing good work yet too often we’re seeing the embrace of vision zero feel like it is uh signing on to a slogan

Or a pr you know public relations campaign and it’s it’s with good intentions i don’t want to criticize it’s it’s it’s people who do want the best but i think what we’re seeing is this really important time that we have to also emphasize that means change and as people have said change

Can be hard right so you know i think we’re really uh we’re acknowledging back to that political question because i think that’s so critical even when we have let’s say a support from the mayor or or a leader of the transportation department even when we have that

It need we need the public pressure we need the public will and as others have said that that means personal stories it means elevating the voices of victims and people who’ve suffered uh it means also i would say investing in community-based advocacy i think we can’t expect the public sector

To change the culture on its own i think we really need to say you know who are these advocacy groups or potential advocacy groups that can be out there pushing us that can be at the hearings reminding us of that personal importance so i i would really love to see

More investment in and i by that i mean funding resources in the advocacy sector who is going to really make the big change and then i’d say for us you know another big learning is that i think this may be different in some places but the issues of equity

Especially when it comes to racial equity and income equity um for instance you know we know that people walking in the u.s people of color walking in the u.s are twice as likely to die hit by cars and die as well as low income people twice as likely to die

When they’re hit by cars walking um so that is a severe problem yet our frankly our federal government doesn’t talk about equity in relation to transportation and mobility nearly enough now we’re starting to see that happen from cities um and from leaders especially at the local

Level so you know a lot of our work is kind of grass roots up it’s not the most efficient way to do things but it’s the way it’s happening so we’re really trying to emphasize how do we how do we help those advocates have strong voices and how do we really

Center equity in this work as others have said you know vision zero and safe mobility is is intimately tied to climate change work um it’s intimately tied to equity and and live you know uh healthy living work as well so i think we need to do a better job on all of that

But we have lots to learn from all of you thank you thank you very much leah for sharing with us all the work and the learnings that you have from these cities and and really interesting because i i personally believe that we are dealing with years

Of uh trying to do raw safety in a way that is not effective and that really equals to blaming the victim right why pedestrians are crossing here or look at that cyclist why is that cyclist here right when we really need to change our minds and accept

You know people make mistakes they are really vulnerable to kinetic energy how can we protect them right that’s the main question instead of blaming the exercise is really what else can you do right and what you are saying having that community engaged in really pressuring the politicians so that

It doesn’t stain a slogan right we are visual zero but we continue doing business as usual and it’s striking to me um how last year 2019 new york city had 29 cyclists killed in the roads one of them was an immigrant that was coming from bangladesh he came crossing the border

From mexico and arrived in new york city started working as a delivery boy with his bicycle and was killed in a traffic crash in his bicycle these 29 fatalities ended with new york city committing 1.7 billion dollars for cycling infrastructure that’s where we really can see the mouth that is slogan

Going into concrete action that we are going to give this safety infrastructure to people so very very importantly and we hope there is a closer connection between the vision zero network in the united states and the latin american network because i think we are working on the same topics

Thank you lia for sharing with us and now i want to turn to mariana mariana legree you come from lima and in lima there has been a lot of work right now in cycling precisely due to copic 19 this is one of the areas that has

Grown quite a bit and i know you work with the community so can you tell us how do you see the safe system approach being taken what is the process that you foresee for a city like lima to take the safe system approach in light of the experience that you

Are having with cycling and the needs the people have there thank you very much claudia and everyone uh it was very great to hear everyone talking before and addressing such important topics as climate pollution and all the affair and so um so yes here in lima and in several

Cities in our country um cycling have been pushed over through the skies in terms of numbers because of the pandemic and we experience one major crisis in terms of health and have lost a lot of lives here in peru and at the same time we have experienced

A really really strict lockdown in the country we still have some of the restrictions in order right now um and that that’s why uh lots of people turn to bicycles and change their ways of of of of moving around the city in major ways but of course

The public transit which is the most used and the most Important system for making the cities work uh have also been um are still being collapsed and absolutely with none little investment on making the trips on public transit safe for everyone and kovitz safe too so going back to biking and public spaces and we have we have been saying for a while

Uh kind of a joke with friends and some experts hearing mobility that we have been demanding mayors to make bike lanes for a lot of years and before kabit we start saying so now we are not only asking mayors to make the bike lanes but also asking them to make them

Well to design them well and now with the kovit crisis we are not only demanding the mayors to make the bike lanes and to make them well but also to actually make them stay because i think that most of the um public policies that are being happening right now

Are still with the view of making this temporal bike lanes in order to actually going back to normality and this normality is actually not working for anyone we have been experiencing lots of fatalities and and losses and people being injured in um different traffic accidents and that’s also why

We want authorities to implement a comprehensive plan not only for urban mobility but but for public spaces uh just to mention a couple of uh situations the first and we have been with a strict lockdown also for cars for private cars we have been um having them not being

Permitted to be to be used except some of them who have some permits so that that’s why the bike uh start to flourish uh but this the day they actually allow the cars to go uh and being used again we have our first cyclist being killed on the second day

We have a second cyclist being killed and the third day we have a third one and the fourth day it was a fourth person that has been killed in the streets of course it was regarding the speed of the cars and the um and this of course we already know the

And the the disparity in between the the force the power the massiveness of the cars in comparison of the cyclists and of course the pedestrians so um this uh show us how difficult is to actually start thinking and and to make this change of mind that we are more comfortable knowing

That we actually need to have a whole generation transformation which we are getting close those now the people in power are still getting older and younger people are stepping forward and start taking some areas in different government and private sector and so um but um

We have also been we have we also have a major political crisis like two weeks ago and probably today is another one going to happen i guess we have three presidents in less than a month maybe a fourth one is going to come i don’t know but um we have also been taken

Out the streets so there’s like millions of peruvians get out the streets and we have the biggest the biggest native massive bike ride in terms to protest against the problems on on the authoritarianism and the detectorship but also to demand the reposition of the sundays being held

Only for people and not for cars which was also one of the uh public policies that was persisted until three weeks ago so um we then have this amazing critical mass growing and getting stronger with a lot of collectives and and movements getting to be more and more visible and more and more

Um capable to actually put their agenda on the public setting and that’s quite important so we still have lots to demand we still have lots to uh to to to to do in order to save lives and in order to become actually a better city and better

Cities here in peru but i guess we are going into the right way uh but we actually need a national plan for public spaces that includes uh bike bike bike lanes but also areas for biking and recreational bike programs as we already have and there are lots in the world

All over the cities to control the demand and and start giving opportunities to people but we need to address this in order to actually have an economic point of view it is not enough for the decision-making people here to talk about health and to talk about social benefits and to talk about economic

Environmental issues we need to talk to them about reactivation of the economy and and in order to make them being aware that it is as much as important than open a mall to actually open the streets in order to make a people’s uh have more progress then we need to actually measure that

Too so this is why we are trying to get back to the neighborhoods in the more micro level to start uh promoting businesses small little businesses informal ones yes because it is what the people are doing and and have been doing for a lot of time but

With public space and opening streets to people not for cars we can do that so that’s what i wanted to share thank you very much and everyone thank you very much mariana how fascinating that uh two crisis right almost back-to-back the covet crisis and then the political crisis

In both of them with a big component on cycling at the core of it and cycling that we want not only to be safe but also to stay which is really great it’s interesting to see again achieved in the groups that are leading the country and having more people

More young people and all this uh reactivation of the economy really playing a big role on how things can change how safe it can be also part of that conversation thank you very much mariana for sharing and best of luck today and ana maria so we’ve been hearing about

Different cities and you work at the inter-american development bank uh you have been supporting role safety quite a bit and now growth safety in the safe system approaches is quite different and is interlocked with sustainability so how do you see the future of the cities in latin america right now mass transportation is

Going to a big problem and more and more cities are really keen on putting more cycling there how do you see the financing and the support for these two main areas in cities thank you claudia and a very inspiring interventions and by all the the panel would you

Be able to come a little closer to the microphone because we can hear you oh sorry can you hear me now beta okay sorry uh so i was just saying that was very inspiring listening to all the panelists and made me think about one one of the issues that are really

Important for most some of the organizations that are here or around the world supporting road safety and it’s this responsibility that we have in making sure that road safety keeps being a priority a across different governments or political leadership because as sergio was saying sergio was saying was

How we can help that every time that a new mayor a new political party comes into office us from the bank for example can play a key role on helping like grow safety being a priority and that’s something that we try to kind of enforce on all of our uh

Transport specialists around latin america to make sure that road safety is in the agenda that we can offer practical solutions that can be implemented in the political period because i think that that’s one of the the challenges that we have sometimes is how we can take road safety from this like kind of

General and theoretical almost like discussion to to practical solutions that can give them results within the the time frame of the of the of the political uh term so saying that we are now financing as you know main urban transport projects in latin america we’re financing the metro lima metro

Quito metro sao paulo and many more not just metros but a system urban transport system we find it very difficult to implement and consolidate these transport systems and um and and saying this and and time like linking this to cycling infrastructure um to me and i don’t know if some of the

Panelists agree sometimes it keeps being like a something like i it’s like i did idealistic maybe not in bogota but sometimes it’s like kind of you want to to to solve a problem sergio was saying of moving cars some people quickly and then this like cyclist still some kind of like

A uh an activist or a a small group of people trying to change a thing and and i know there are lots of people that use this a as a real mean of transport for going to work and and not just for recreational but it’s still

As a small but growing part of the population of doing it so how can you really prioritize resources for what still is a small part of the population uh moving and we haven’t talked here about motorcycles which i think is a huge part of the agenda um

That we need to prioritize so um how i how i see the financing um i think the the way of doing it but as i say is like how we can solve the problems that we have in our cities that are still like quite big and i don’t know what to

Say they were messy but i still have the issue of being not this ideal kind of sorry to to make the comparison but european city with everything is put into place and we still have really some of really chaotic problems uh we still are not managing to build the the

Infrastructure projects in time and in cost and with lots of corruption and real problems and then we how we can implement this into the agenda one thing that i find and that we can use and help the countries are doing is it put this in the design of the project

From the start so not just like this no we we we arrive late when the project is finishing now remember that you have to do zebra crosses remember that you have to know how we can really from the design of this project put the cycling and the all the the pedestrian infrastructure

From the beginning and then the cause of doing this is small if you so so that’s something that we’re trying really hard to do and we um like right i mean in our guidelines are we trying to enforce this and then as i say how we can use help them

The the cities to keep and um do this as a permanent policy we’re working a and i here invited the all the cities that are um connected that reach to us to our transport specialists in every in every country to help them do this like to help them out like the plan

The plans we have technical cooperation resources that we can really put into place and we’re working together with wri and all the the partners to be able to help the cities on a more applied process i know it’s not easy but i think we could do that and and and just to

Finalize that how we can really make this jump on on from this theoretical approach to really practical approach um and that’s why we are well working on this a program of rose road safer routes to school which i feel that has a really it’s a really nice program it’s very local

And as well have to me a political appeal i can see a mayor and going and in every schools and and celebrating that day making the school safe is is low cost the intervention is proven and it’s proven that reduce in very short amount of time the fatalities at least of other kids

Were walking into schools can involve parents the education community and and and and and and i think it’s a long hanging fruit we so saying that we are prioritizing as well because i feel us at the bank have been all around the place we arrive and

Say oh you can do this and they done that so now we’re privatizing and this program of safe route to school is our priority and i offer here the guide the help and all the support that we can do to implement these programs given that is our children our children who are dying

The most thank you thank you very much ana maria very interesting to hear all the work that the inter-american development bank is doing at different levels right mass transportation uh but also reflecting on how to provide financing for cycling as you said right now it seems to be just a minority

That is using cycling but maybe if we give the right infrastructure build it and they will come so it is really great to hear what um the idv is doing in the americas and with that i would like to thank you very much alia mariana maria sergeant stewart uh for joining us today

This has been a wonderful conversation and i would like to call uh matsuke berlin from the swedish transport administration he’s the director of the vision zero academy one of the places where the concept of the safe system approach was crafted to close us and close the series of webinars division zero challenge

Webinars thank you very much mansoka to you uh thank you claudia thanks for this opportunity um it’s great to hear the the panel and all the discussions has been today and and uh it it started with etienne and what he say is extremely promising i would say because he said that this problem

With with road traffic injuries is really high now on the agenda on the global agenda and now we’re even talking about a high level meeting in u.n and i used to say that this global interest for traffic injuries started all in 2004 it’s time before 2004 and the time after 2004.

So we’re moving now slowly yes but step by step we’re slowing removing this agenda now up this problem up on the global agenda and and it’s also great to hear you claudia when you’re talking about all this webinar and all this knowledge that we have about this problem and

All this different aspect and how we try to integrate safety now to a much broader agenda uh that it’s not only about about safety it’s about the whole society and a matter of fact i think that when you think about a little bit more safety is actually one of the main barriers now

To to make other things happen for example a much broader cycling or or walking because people have to feel secure and safety when they’re doing this and safety become one of the major barriers so so if we are successful in our achievement then we will also uh contribute to

Er to to the rest of this uh more of the important system development goals so that’s very important to to keep that in mind and uh and when we hear this panel today then and and all this uh aspect of of what i will say the uh the implementation of

A concept like vision zero it’s very obvious that while our society and we are human is very conservative we like business as usual but that that’s not possible we have to move now from business usual and transform this this transport system to something very different the good thing is that we have

A lot of knowledge we have so much knowledge now that we don’t even have to chasing all this black spot or all this killed and so on we can use data and knowledge that we have developed in other countries now to start to be become proactive in in road safety

But but in the same time what we need now is leadership and we need people who can manage this to happen and and it is you guys i can’t see you now but you are very important now to take to take all these policies and all this knowledge now

And move this uh forward and and i think uh this webinar and others webinar and and actually what we try to do now in this efficiency share or academy it’s also important because we have to discuss this among all these people now we can hope for political support and so on but probably

In some cases so in some countries we are we are likely to have it in some other countries or in cities we have to creating this we have to manage this we have to work with these issues and and and uh therefore we we need uh people like you

To start to discuss these things and and and and together we can develop a kind of knowledge of how to make things happen to manage these things and that will be uh as you all heard today that will be a great balance act because on the one hand we would like to humanize

This problem we need to bring that up you know it’s it’s humans who are killed and serious injuries and it’s a catastrophe for this individual and the whole family but in the same time we need to use technology data and technology so we have to balance these you know this bureaucrat

Systematic work and and plans and and that kind of thing in the same time we have to remember what we’re working with and we we need to use it also because we have to make sure that people understand that this is flash and bloody in the end

And in the same time we have to focus we have to make sure that we really contribute to safety in the same time we have to mainstream safety into broader agenda so it’s not an easy task it’s a very difficult task but uh but i like this whole discussion today and and uh

And i would like you to feel and understand that you play a very important role to make this happen in in all your cities so with this word and i just would like to thank you for this opportunity to be pardoned in this vision zero challenge and and uh and um and we

Uh it’s been a very difficult year of course for every one of us and and but now we we we start to plan for the next year and hopefully we will be able to to do more things of this next year yes thank you claudia thank you so much

Matsuke for all the support that you and your team has given to the vision zero challenge uh throughout all the preparation in uh deployment uh we look forward very much to continue working with you as the cities will start reflecting and putting together their plans

We will come back to you for advice as well as our all uh all our partners in families with that i just want to closure the uh event in this moment um and just to thank all our partners that you have seen that in particular a big big thanks to

Each of our panelists that have put their time uh to come and share with you all the information that you need uh to build your safe system um plan or to start working in one topic but on the safe system approach i also would like to thank uh my team

You can see here a lot of names it’s been a big effort for uh many of uh our colleagues in wri they have been helping quite a bit uh so big big thanks um to you all for all your work thank you very much i wish you all happy holidays

And we will be back in 2020 to start rolling our sleeves and seeing how we can build uh safe system plans for your cities thank you very much thank you everyone bye

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Date: 2020-12-10 20:16:19
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