Title:بازسازی پس از طوفان سندی: مصاحبه با اسکات دیویس از HUD

جیم شواب از APA، AICP، مدیر مرکز تحقیقات برنامه ریزی خطرات، با اسکات دیویس از وزارت مسکن و شهرسازی ایالات متحده در مورد برنامه ریزی پس از فاجعه در منطقه نیویورک و نیوجرسی پس از طوفان سندی مصاحبه می کند. ضبط شده در کنفرانس برنامه ریزی ملی ۲۰۱۴ در آتلانتا

قسمتي از متن فيلم: Hello this is jim schwab i’m manager of the hazards planning research center for the american planning association and we’re here at the 2014 apa national planning conference in atlanta uh with me is scott davis from hud scott has recently been the director of the office of recovery

Uh within the department of housing and urban development and is now a senior advisor to the office of the secretary correct so he’s got deep experience before that he was actually with fema for a while uh back during hurricane katrina and afterwards so he brings years of experience with

This issue of disaster recovery um scott the place i’d like to start is that in the aftermath of sandy there have been some interesting discussions and innovations on the part of hud both in chairing secretary donovan chairing this hurricane sandy rebuilding task force and in the goals of the hud expenditures which are

Substantial right for you know community development block grant disaster recovery funds right could you tell us a little about what has been happening that is sort of changing the the field of disaster recovery from hud’s perspective right well i would say that that um a large part of it is that

The secretary comes from local government and he understands that all recovery is local and it hits the ground locally that’s where the rubber hits the road and so capacity there and is always an issue um when you’re talking about recovery of this magnitude and handling this volume of

Funding it’s like drinking from a fire hose for a lot of places and so part of the challenge what we’re leaning forward on behalf of the government is to try to do a much better job of coordinating all of our funding streams and programs and policies so that they’re not drinking out of

Multiple fire hoses at the same time right um and uh and so that’s really a large part of how the hurricane sandy rebuilding task force kind of function but not just to help to coordinate federal investments and and kind of subject matter expertise and everything else but also to um to form a

Collective vision with local state and federal leaders in the region to establish a long-term rebuilding strategy um and identify areas where uh where where kind of where we need to go in order to achieve a more sustainable resilient recovery for the sandy region yeah and that collective vision for the

Region is an interesting point because of the the very geography of sandy yes where you’ve got this huge city 8 million people new york where sean donovan comes from you’ve got a plethora of small municipalities scattered across the rest of long island and then a lot of very small towns

Up and down the coast in new jersey uh all of which give you a really widely varied region within which to work but much of which has very similar problems yes yes i mean it is widely varied uh in terms of uh scale and scope of jurisdictions but and

Capacity and capacity and political politically a very diverse region right um but they all have one thing in common um and and that’s to you know to rebuild their communities safer and stronger and quickly um and so that’s the unifying theme and and it’s amazing how much after a

Disaster that common goal kind of breaks down a lot of those barriers and you’re able to unify action at a level that you’re often unable to do in non-disaster environments right all of you say all the way up and down this new jersey coast you all have the same

Problem essentially yes yes right yeah and one of the issues that has emerged particularly from the sandy rebuilding task force but also from other discussions in the region is this issue of the role of green infrastructure uh for the the future of that coast right uh could you talk a little bit

About that and hud’s role in trying to encourage that sure sure um and so part of uh one of the um one of the outcomes and recommendations as part of the rebuilding strategy was a series of um kind of resilience principles right and and part of that is to look toward

Uh maximizing green infrastructure alternatives and options and realizing that you know the solution is oftentimes a combination of green and gray and uh and we shouldn’t depend entirely on one or the other but to really explore how to maximize both both approaches and so working together with

Our other federal agencies you know epa and interior and department of energy and others really looking at um at it kind of where key opportunities are for these these kind of strategic investments in in green infrastructure um so we’re really looking to to to maximize that um the one of the

Um one of the major things coming out of a a design competition that hud has recently sponsored called rebuild by design has been a lot of the innovative ideas uh and project proposals for resilience coming out of that have included a lot of green infrastructure

Uh elements yeah i was in fact going to if you didn’t mention that i was going to ask you to talk about rebuild by design and how that process uh is actually encouraging some innovation and because there’s a big public participation component in that that’s often not part of design

Competitions right very very and that’s one of the things i mean many things makes it unique but um is that we really wanted ideas not just that are um good ideas maybe that stand alone that come out of a studio somewhere with a bunch of great thinkers and come out and present

Be a pretty proposal that can hang on a wall but something that is actually implementable and feasible and viable technically politically feasible you know uh organically within the community absolutely and so half of the competition really was it was very participatory and very uh outreach intensive and

Um because of that it takes a longer time to to do this it was a nine month competition multiple phases right and it began with really understanding uh having the design teams work with the communities to understand their needs and priorities and the interdependencies of systems there and then work with them

To kind of collectively collaboratively develop design solutions that are appropriate for that place and do that with kind of tacking back and forth with them strategically along the design path and so the result is that they it’s been incredible they they’ve submitted um dozens and dozens of letters of support

Accompanying each design proposal from local stakeholders local elected officials um all the way you know from from local nonprofit groups all the way up to united states senators and and it’s it’s it’s really i think um done a tremendous job of of forming the the basis so the the community really

Themselves take over the project and are its own champion and there’s a foundation there for really to um help implementation and that’s really critical yeah we’re you know this is the first time you’re doing this uh presumably it may not be the last so where does that rebuild by design competition

Lead hud in terms of this kind of engagement in future scenarios like sandy future disasters future projects of this nature well i would say that um and not just limiting to disasters it’s it’s a great innovative approach that’s created some great feasible projects um and the transition

From rebuild by design to build by design necessarily that it doesn’t necessarily just have to happen post-disaster but this is how we should be building all the time and incentivizing innovative ways to increase resilience in our cities before and after disasters and so the the the

Challenge is um to the model uh of course is that um there are unique opportunities that come with post-disaster recovery because it’s an opportunity for large one-time investors so congress has appropriated a lot of uh funding to help communities rebuild and we’re able to um to to kind of

To match up some of those investments with the needs on the ground in innovative ways in kind of non-disaster environments finances are very stretched at the local state and federal level um but um that doesn’t mean that um that that the model can’t be adapted to kind of right-size itself to the

Funding sources and sizes available and disasters are not the only kind of stress that communities experience so right absolutely which leads me to the one final question i want to use to wrap this up and i know that fema has worked a lot more on this particular piece of the puzzle

Uh but it it seems inevitable that sooner or later hud will also be uh involved in this because hud comes as close as we have to a national planning agency the question of especially for the purpose of resilience getting communities into the habit of actually doing pre-event planning

Looking ahead to what would just recovery look like should an event occur uh you know and part of that resilience is it’s that it becomes an ongoing activity rather than a reactive activity right just waiting for an event to happen right right no absolutely and i think

That’s that’s critical and that’s a real uh an area where we all need to lean forward on moving forward um which is communities don’t necessarily need to envision what their community will look like after a disaster how they right before what they’re doing the pre-disaster planning for post-disaster

Recovery is is figuring out what the decision-making process is going to look like so that they don’t you want to kind of assemble those structures and those relationships and identify those roles and responsibilities in peace time rather than wartime so you can hit the ground running absolutely um and and

That way everybody knows what everybody else is supposed to be doing and that these um and these joint coordination and decision-making structures not just within the jurisdiction but how that jurisdiction makes decisions with other jurisdictions or the school board or the sewer and water authority or the transportation authority and so that

Those that you start to think about recovery regionally because disasters rarely hit just one you know jurisdiction sometimes they they do but the large-scale disasters usually have impacts that extend far beyond one just yes and understanding that a good bit of resilience is building those relationships so that things do function

Efficiently yes yes yes absolutely you

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Time: 1405368821
Date: 2014-07-15 00:43:41
Duration: 00:11:58

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