Title:ارزیابی تأثیرات طوفان سندی: مصاحبه با چارلز لاتینی، AICP

جیم شواب، مدیر مرکز تحقیقات برنامه ریزی مخاطرات APA، با چارلز لاتینی، AICP، در مورد اثرات طوفان سندی در منطقه نیوجرسی و اینکه چگونه برنامه ریزی می تواند روند بهبود را شکل دهد، مصاحبه می کند. Charles Latini, Jr., PP, AICP یک برنامه ریز حرفه ای کاربری زمین و طراح شهری است. مالک اصلی LGH Planning او هم پزشک و هم مدافع سیاست است و هم در بخش دولتی و هم در بخش خصوصی کار کرده است. در ۱۵ سال گذشته، حوزه اصلی تمرکز او بر توسعه ترانزیت محور است، اما از بهترین شیوه ها در چشم انداز جامعه و اقدامات طراحی نوآورانه برای ادغام همه حالت های حمل و نقل به عنوان بخشی از فرآیند ساخت جامعه بدون توجه به حضور حمل و نقل استفاده می کند. او رئیس فعلی انجمن برنامه‌ریزی آمریکا – بخش نیوجرسی است، جایی که او این بخش را به چندین جایزه ملی هدایت کرده است.

قسمتي از متن فيلم: Hello this is Jim Schwab I’m a manager of the American Planning Association hazards planning research center been hosting a number of these sandy discussions on our recovery news blog and today with me is Charles Latini and now in his second term as the president of our new jersey chapter of APA as well

As the principal of his own firm cewl planning out of west trenton new jersey so welcome Chuck thank you Jeff let’s talk a little about some of the impacts and issues in New Jersey for Sandy we’ve had a previous discussion with James rouse about the situation in New York

City but New Jersey is a bit of a different critter and what have you actually seen what what if you heard in terms of the overall impacts on New Jersey and some of the key issues that you think New Jersey is going to face in recovery well I think you know by and

Large we we have somewhat similar issues and damage that New York experienced certainly the storm surge affected our coastline similarly in along the coast of Hudson County which is very might as well beat sixth borough of manhattan the title areas of the Delaware or the Raritan Bay took a hit barrier islands

And some of that hole equates to some of the damage that occurred along Island and particularly the Rockaways you know some of the some of the things that are going on right now the way we were dissecting it as an organization and bringing others into the fold and having

These discussions really seems to be a three-part need so speak you know one is the short term of zero to six was needed on the ground today and then leading up it through the next year and then and then the third tier being beyond that year and more to longer-term

Questions of what we’re willing to do so right now as far as we’re experiencing as chapter trying to support the county and local planners as they’re experiencing high volumes of residents trying to rebuild how to rebuild where do they go for disaster assistance you know and then their works getting mixed

Messages so there’s quite a bit of confusion on the ground short-term and you know in some of that other short-term issues really center around the basics of planning and zoning moving beyond that of course is you know when and where and how to rebuild in terms of

Infrastructure in and land use one of the obvious things you mentioned local and county planners one of the obvious differences from New York City of course is there you’ve got this huge municipality of eight million people with a single city government a lot of complications and they’d leave us to say

But in New Jersey you’ve got literally hundreds of municipalities I’m sure at least dozens of them scattered right up and down the shoreline of a lengthy coast can you talk to some of the issues with regard to the capacities of these many local governments and some of their

Relationships with the state it seems the state probably has a much more significant role to play in New Jersey in some respects um yeah in New Jersey you know we have 21 counties not all of them got affected in very different ways some very minimal with tree damage and

Localized flooding but by and large everything is limited in code and we have 566 total municipalities in terms of capacity even every counties in a different at different levels some of our counties are really progressive and they really have fantastic planning staffs and others you know they’re dirt

County governments don’t maybe see the value of planning in there they’re supportive planning shows and their staffing levels and their ability to handle certain things municipality is very greatly as well certainly be great if we had the planning capacity of New York City but by and large and thinking

A lot of municipalities are really supported by planning consultants in the area and you know in terms of you know planning resources in the region new york and new jersey has a wealth of professionals and institutions all with tremendous capacity to be able to assist

But because of because it is a very much of a consulting like roll by and large it’s on not everything it makes the relationships and the ability to get in and speak and reach the local officials a little bit more challenging okay what exactly is happening at the state level

I’ve heard you discuss that in some other meetings which agencies are playing what roles and whose mo more significant in terms of moving recovery planning long we thought a new jersey’s had a very proactive state planning function for quite some time and this with this recent governor they

Decided to take on this what they’re calling the state teaching plan and and the one thing that this effort really jumps off long right from the get-go was where others didn’t concentrate so much other efforts concentrated on how the state could develop a plan miss about is

Implement it and and and try to back in the resources the state was going to bring to the table this effort is really about sort of looking at the state first across the cabinet’s across all the departments and aligning them to one common objective will be the set of

Objectives that’s in the stinking trading plan so that process has been going on for a better part of a year or two and what is really beneficial to us today is the fact that they have been talking and they understand the need to to talk amongst themselves and with each

Other to be able to support the principalities it was often in one department would do something and it was contrary to another one but now it’s an effort to try to get it all together so I say that because what I believe the state is has done in recently pulling

The state g2g plan off of the State Planning Commission’s of agenda to hold it for additions to the storm and an economic resiliency really is is trying to utilize that framework that already began as means to continue that level of coordination moving forward I’m not exactly sure how it’s all going to play

Out yet because the newly-appointed recovery and sorry I believe they’re calling has been brought on just on Monday so I’m sure he’s up to his eyeballs trying to his head around things and developing a strategy to move forward but you know by and large APA New Jersey has been along with APA

National and Metro pulling folks together and being able to offer what we think is a sensible approach to move forward with realizing that other entities are going to try to jump out there and and do things and maybe so it’ll be good and maybe some of it won’t

We don’t know but but the one thing’s for sure is really need to create a plan for the process by which we all move forward with and and we’ve been in discussion with the state and they know where we’re moving forward with that and they know we’ve been talking to the

Other planning advocates and the county planners and keep municipality on Alana coast yeah and you just had a big workshop meeting on Saturday over at Rutgers can tell us a little of what came out of that um yeah I mean well you know especially when you’re dealing with

An issue of such magnitude that you’re trying to get your head around it first certainly a lot more questions were creative than than answers at this point but you know the really the one thing that jumped out of this is really the short-term needs being as great as they

Are and it really need to develop a communication strategy not just with local officials but with the public at large they don’t know where to go for information where they’re being fed you know 10 15 different you know links to different websites and phone numbers and

One missive how it is telenet on a resident one thing and then their turn around and call on a friend that it’s a helluva spouting all so you got miscommunication so who’s right who’s wrong which is more important and so so really addressing those short-term needs became something

To jumped right out and you know clearly we’re not ready to have discussions with folks who still are not at home yet living in temporary housing which is in very short supply and definitely an issue that we’ve all needed to be dealing with and people are still

Cleaning up so so being able to address this really long term planning issues is something we’ll continue to think about how we roll out but really to the needs up front the nuts and bolts of planning and zoning and rebuilding and code enforcement those kind of things are

Really the short-term needs and the other thing that really jumped out is you know not every county again is that the same capacity as other ones and their hazard mitigation plans are by and large very different from County to County there was one County along coast doesn’t even have a hazard mitigation

Plan which is really surprising in the end FEMA is working really hard with them to get something on books right now so and by and large we’re also finding out some counties or some counties planning departments are involved in those mitigation plans and others are solely solely developed by OEM personnel

Or public safety folks who are critical in that planning process but you know maybe we’re missing some important details that planners can convert to the table land use for instance I’m so long that house of mitigation planning idea is that some municipalities just adopt merely wilted counties in place and they

Really haven’t gotten as specific as they should down on the ground so so it’s gonna be a real opportunity to get folks to understand the comprehensive planning that includes these types of efforts is really important not just you know not just for protecting people but ensuring that you

Know our ability to recover after these things is it’s a lot shorter distracted yeah well that leads to an important question and i know this plays to a bit of a strength on your part so let me get to it one of the things that happens after a disaster like this often at

Least is the opportunity to reassess things like the settlement pattern of a community the overall urban design as well as building standards you know building codes things of that nature what opportunities are you seeing you feel may emerge in terms of some opportunities for replanting and redesign in the affected communities

Having having grown up in New Jersey and and certainly the I’ll take the 10 years I spent in new york city living living along the hudson as you know living in the area because you know my family is all here and I’ve never left the coast

Of New York New Jersey other than my travels I’ve spent considerable amounts of time as a youth as an adult at the at the Jersey in New York sure and as I became sort of enlightened so to speak from a planning person playing a design perspective a lot of things jumped out

At me as like crazy you know how bicycle and pedestrian dominated communities can not serve those functions almost in the least bit in some cases and you know so i think the the opportunity is particularly when we’re doing infrastructure and and and rebuilding people’s homes in certain places were

Not in other places really starts to give us the opportunity to rethink how say the boulevard on Long Beach Island which is a four-lane highway with its big Center turning lane and and folks trying to cross it every day during during summer hours is it slowed down and humanized and and thus strengthening

I think the the land use potential adjacent to it and then and then thinking about how different building types can actually be brought into the into the picture you know it doesn’t always have maybe maybe some of the solutions is to not rebuild on on certain parts of the islands where Bay

Wants to meet ocean and there’s constant breaches and flooding all the time even when there’s not a catastrophe and and introduce different building types in a way that maybe has more of a mixed-use component or concentrates development in a way that puts into building type that

Maybe is a lot stronger than and just to say to single-family stick build homes so there’s things like that I mean certainly will get in to a lot more of the opportunities as as we explore them what the communities but I think there’s a real opportunity to create a better

Beach communities yeah one question it flows from that too is those beach communities are often big opportunities in terms of tourism as an economic development tool they attract a lot of visitors as well as you know having full-time residents there and that also introduces some issues about urban design the aesthetic attractions of

Those communities for visitors how that affects economic development it have any thoughts about that aspect of things as the rebuilding looks forward store I mean I mean look at some of these communities and you’ll see that you know the wawas and the gas stations and the and even some of the restaurants that

Got developed a very auto driven men and their design is in some case uninspiring to be kind so when you’re thinking about redesigning particular commercial areas that may not be designed as strongly for the pedestrian I think you’re automatically starting to get into some design aspects that give us an

Opportunity to create a better place one that we know as as we deal with urban design issues across the country that people like aspects of building design and orientation that facilitates pedestrian and and architectural components that really better to the street still I think I think in thinking through some of these things

Aesthetically just on a day-to-day basis you do really we have the opportunity to create even more attractive places so many pollutants be honest people are going down to the shore because of the ocean and the other types of entertainment type activities but when you’re you know so that’s that’s go is

Going to be a draw but we can strengthen that no I think with some really strong design elements yeah because once people get there once they find a place to put that car walking the strip is acting but more interesting yeah yes make it as safe and as interesting as we can and

That old I think that would ultimately just strengthen the economies mm-hmm okay any closing thoughts you want to offer about the the role of the new jersey chapter and planners in new jersey with regard to this whole process before we close well i think you know as we’ve been thinking about this and

I’ve been you know chapters New Jersey’s lucky because we have a strong chapter a lot of great volunteers certainly I want to be able to do half the things for the chapter as I’m able to without without the strength of our membership and the resources that we have but but making

Those resources go as far as we can during this effort is going to be important but I also don’t want it let the members believe that every single thing we do is just going to be tailored to the beachfront I mean certainly this is the storm do you wear the day right

So but last year Irene hit the state in a different way so inland communities got flooded and had power outages issues where the beach didn’t have as much yeah so vulnerable ities of statewide really yeah yeah so our opportunity really is to look at vulnerability and building

Resiliency statewide I believe we have a captive audience so to speak I mean even even those of us who live inland and and see our friends and families going off and business as usual again because was we had what I was power around for a few

Days their ear is still up as to what’s being talked about along the beach in and our title communities so our opportunity really is to take that message deeper into and include the entire state and and really show why planning is important okay thank you very much enjoy both thank you to

Conversation with you today

ID: t–o5Zdouv4
Time: 1354901365
Date: 2012-12-07 20:59:25
Duration: 00:21:28

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